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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mchuang
NJ is this pill for replacing the solenoid side or the turbo side.
It's for the turbo side.

Originally Posted by nj1266
There is the right way and the cheap way to do this. I want to do it the right. I do not see how someone with a drill bit and a dremel tool can create a pill with a venturi effect just like the Works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi_effect
NJ is right here. Making a custom machined pill in small batches costs some money. Any monkey can make a straight pill with a hole through it. To make them correctly it will cost money if done at a machine shop by hand in small batches

We get flack for this all the time, people can't seem to understand why such small pills cost $12-15 each. We are actually looking to get them made by automated CNC machines which will cut the price drastically.

NJ is doing a good service here in helping people out that want some pills. He could have just had them done for himself and be done with it but he is reaching out to others as well.

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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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To add to what razorlab said I've actually made a couple of these pills by hand and it's not easy unless you have the right equipment. I did it with a hand drill and patience, but the process is no where near precise. Finally, if you were doing this and didn't already have the right size bits and/or brass rod, it will cost you more than what he's offering anyway. To each his own though, doing it yourself does work.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
There is the right way and the cheap way to do this. I want to do it the right. I do not see how someone with a drill bit and a dremel tool can create a pill with a venturi effect just like the Works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi_effect
Id hate to say it, but the cheap way worked like a charm... watched his pills drilled and hold boost as high as 25 psi over and over again with no issues. I did say Cobb. Obviously they know something about these pills that works.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
It's for the turbo side.
So what is on the solenoid side, no pill or stock pill?

As far as cnc machining, I can probably get them made, I just need to speak to personal friend does lots of cnc work for a lot of turbo manifold manufacturers in the import world. Lots of pics are missing cuz he is updating his website. http://www.bmcrace.com/index.php
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mchuang
So what is on the solenoid side, no pill or stock pill?

Stock pill on solenoid side.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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I got the PILLS and they look sexy. Pics do not do them justice especially with my stupid camera that I could not get to focus at close range. He ended up making 25 pills and added a #59 size pill. But, here are the pics

http://www.sr20deracing.com/EVO/IMG_0296.JPG
http://www.sr20deracing.com/EVO/Img_0298.jpg
http://www.sr20deracing.com/EVO/Img_0299.jpg

The price was as expected $10 per pill. I need to figure out the shipping cost for the people on the list. If shipping and packging is not too much, then I will sell them for $10 shipped. I will probably ship them next week since I have an SCCA race weekend @ Cal Speedway and I have to prep the SE-R. So here is what you do:

e-mail at ndahi@charter.net

I want your real name, name on evom, address and the method of payment you want to use and what pill size you want. If you have priorty on the pill size, you shal get it. If not, then I will e-mail you back with the next pill size that I have.

It would make my life very easy if you use PAYPAL. But PLEASE use the paypal free service and not the one that uses credit cards. I have a free account with paypal and I cannot accept credit card payments.

Get them while they are hot. This is the first and ONLY time I will have pills made.

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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bigric09
Id hate to say it, but the cheap way worked like a charm... watched his pills drilled and hold boost as high as 25 psi over and over again with no issues. I did say Cobb. Obviously they know something about these pills that works.
I do not understand your attitude here. You act as if I am making a profit on this and you are trying your best to promote Cobb. I am NOT making a profit. I am doing these pills because I WANTED a set. The shop told me that it will cost almost the same to make 1 pill or 20 pills because they charge by the hour plus drill bit plus set-up cost. So he went ahead and made 25 or so pills since he had leftover material and time.

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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Which pills would i need to run pump 20-22 and race gas 23-24?
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
I do not understand your attitude here. You act as if I am making a profit on this and you are trying your best to promote Cobb. I am NOT making a profit. I am doing these pills because I WANTED a set. The shop told me that it will cost almost the same to make 1 pill or 20 pills because they charge by the hour plus drill bit plus set-up cost. So he went ahead and made 25 or so pills since he had leftover material and time.
im sorry if that is your outtake on my posts...believe me, it isnt my intention. I am not promoting cobb, just stating that they are a reputable company as far as tuning goes and that is one of the methods they use for making pills and it works well and may be cheaper to you to make your own. that is my point. I know you arent trying to make money on these, you are simply extending the opportunity to other guys who might have the same desire as you do. that is commendable... im just pointing out something that you may be able to do as another alternative to you if you want to try and make your own and or if you have a need to change your pill size in the future. i apologize if my point was coming off the wrong way.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Hey nj why not just mail them thru US postal with normal postage, I am sure they weigh next to nothing and all you would have to do is pay for a stamp lol
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Stock pill on solenoid side.
Well Ill be damned. Looks like I need to get another stock hose with a pill. I could not pry out the stock one on the solenoid, so i just cut it lol and left the turbo side alone. Since doing that my spool up is not as good as before, but according to this post https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=236225

I think I get it now though, the turbo pill the smaller the diameter the higher the base boost pressure you get. So pretty much when changing the turbo side pill you want a smaller than stock one? As far as the solenoid side I am not sure.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mchuang
Hey nj why not just mail them thru US postal with normal postage, I am sure they weigh next to nothing and all you would have to do is pay for a stamp lol
They need to be mailed in those little envelops that have bubble pading in them. I do not want them to get damaged. I doubt that these little envelops cost much. If they do not, then I will charge $10 shipped.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mchuang
Well Ill be damned. Looks like I need to get another stock hose with a pill. I could not pry out the stock one on the solenoid, so i just cut it lol and left the turbo side alone. Since doing that my spool up is not as good as before, but according to this post https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=236225

I think I get it now though, the turbo pill the smaller the diameter the higher the base boost pressure you get. So pretty much when changing the turbo side pill you want a smaller than stock one? As far as the solenoid side I am not sure.
The best way to remove the pill on the solenoid side w/o damaging the hose is to use your teeth. Bite the hose gently several times so you can get the pill to move towards your mouth. Be careful not to swollow the pill I have done it that way many times and it works. That is why God gave us teeth, chewing is secondary
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lapulapu
Which pills would i need to run pump 20-22 and race gas 23-24?
Any pill from #59 to #65 should work. The smaller the pill the less WGDC you run and the more sensitive is the boost to WGDC changes. This is a general rule of thumb.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
Any pill from #59 to #65 should work. The smaller the pill the less WGDC you run and the more sensitive is the boost to WGDC changes. This is a general rule of thumb.
That is because the smaller pill changes the base boost at the wastegate right.
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