a few observaions,
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ecu a few observations,
like to hear back on anyone's corrections on this,
there must be a coolant temp richening function within the ecu. It looks to me like the afr will go richer when the motor is on the hot side. Not a lot, maybe a third of a point for a normal hot motor.
the darn injector scaling is a nightmare, I've chased my 660s from 520 to 650 and still am subtracting fuel. At each scale along the way the car ran well enough, just had "long" trims.
It looks like the trims are conditional too. A hot motor with a rich cant will be read in the trims. So you have to be careful when reading your trims as to catch them in the norm.
wai* The latencies are not really voltage as indicted by ecuflash but different aspects of engine load during closed loop. Idle would be least, and just before the car goes into open loop would be the highest.
I don't use the stock boost solenoid, but I can see the benefit of it. I would imagine there is a routine that meters boost to throttle and a number of other parameters.
With the ebcs you get basically on and off despite relatively low throttle positions. The draw back being low load cells being hit uncharacteristicly and needing reduced timing as a result. I can't see why else I have had to reduce timing in the 70, 80, 90 columns.
wai= wild assed idea
there must be a coolant temp richening function within the ecu. It looks to me like the afr will go richer when the motor is on the hot side. Not a lot, maybe a third of a point for a normal hot motor.
the darn injector scaling is a nightmare, I've chased my 660s from 520 to 650 and still am subtracting fuel. At each scale along the way the car ran well enough, just had "long" trims.
It looks like the trims are conditional too. A hot motor with a rich cant will be read in the trims. So you have to be careful when reading your trims as to catch them in the norm.
wai* The latencies are not really voltage as indicted by ecuflash but different aspects of engine load during closed loop. Idle would be least, and just before the car goes into open loop would be the highest.
I don't use the stock boost solenoid, but I can see the benefit of it. I would imagine there is a routine that meters boost to throttle and a number of other parameters.
With the ebcs you get basically on and off despite relatively low throttle positions. The draw back being low load cells being hit uncharacteristicly and needing reduced timing as a result. I can't see why else I have had to reduce timing in the 70, 80, 90 columns.
wai= wild assed idea
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like to hear back on anyone's corrections on this,
there must be a coolant temp richening function within the ecu. It looks to me like the afr will go richer when the motor is on the hot side. Not a lot, maybe a third of a point for a normal hot motor.
the darn injector scaling is a nightmare, I've chased my 660s from 520 to 650 and still am subtracting fuel. At each scale along the way the car ran well enough, just had "long" trims.
It looks like the trims are conditional too. A hot motor with a rich cant will be read in the trims. So you have to be careful when reading your trims as to catch them in the norm.
wai* The latencies are not really voltage as indicted by ecuflash but different aspects of engine load during closed loop. Idle would be least, and just before the car goes into open loop would be the highest.
I don't use the stock boost solenoid, but I can see the benefit of it. I would imagine there is a routine that meters boost to throttle and a number of other parameters.
With the ebcs you get basically on and off despite relatively low throttle positions. The draw back being low load cells being hit uncharacteristicly and needing reduced timing as a result. I can't see why else I have had to reduce timing in the 70, 80, 90 columns.
wai= wild assed idea
there must be a coolant temp richening function within the ecu. It looks to me like the afr will go richer when the motor is on the hot side. Not a lot, maybe a third of a point for a normal hot motor.
the darn injector scaling is a nightmare, I've chased my 660s from 520 to 650 and still am subtracting fuel. At each scale along the way the car ran well enough, just had "long" trims.
It looks like the trims are conditional too. A hot motor with a rich cant will be read in the trims. So you have to be careful when reading your trims as to catch them in the norm.
wai* The latencies are not really voltage as indicted by ecuflash but different aspects of engine load during closed loop. Idle would be least, and just before the car goes into open loop would be the highest.
I don't use the stock boost solenoid, but I can see the benefit of it. I would imagine there is a routine that meters boost to throttle and a number of other parameters.
With the ebcs you get basically on and off despite relatively low throttle positions. The draw back being low load cells being hit uncharacteristicly and needing reduced timing as a result. I can't see why else I have had to reduce timing in the 70, 80, 90 columns.
wai= wild assed idea
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found out they are 650 FIC injectors.
also while doing some background searches I discovered I've had the latency concept backwards. correct me if I am wrong now, bigger latency values adds fuel.
also while doing some background searches I discovered I've had the latency concept backwards. correct me if I am wrong now, bigger latency values adds fuel.
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lets say I have the injectors scaled pretty well and assume for a minute the latencies are not to far off, AFR is right where I want it, is there something I still need to look into.
thanks
lastly I get load cell hits relatively respective to boost/ throttle.
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You can change the Load Calculated value in EvoScan as well...just adjust this line:
And set change the inj scaling from 513 to whatever it is now.
B, if possible see if your rom has the 2 byte load modification posted for it. Make that change and then you won't have to worry about calculated load which is inaccurate anyway.
Code:
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Load Calculated" LogReference="LoadCalc" RequestID="00" Eval="5*513*([InjPulseWidth]-(-0.1026*[Battery]+1.8741))/[AFRMAP]" Unit="load" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="500" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="500" Notes="5*InjScaling*([InjPulseWidth]-(-0.1026*[Battery]+1.8741))/[AFRMAP]"/>
B, if possible see if your rom has the 2 byte load modification posted for it. Make that change and then you won't have to worry about calculated load which is inaccurate anyway.
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to indicate how antiquated I am, I've been interpreting cell locations by reported timing.
I do have 2byte load ready to go, evoscan also can't deal with multiple innovate inputs currently.
looking forward to getting up to the modern world
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I do have 2byte load ready to go, evoscan also can't deal with multiple innovate inputs currently.
looking forward to getting up to the modern world
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You can change the Load Calculated value in EvoScan as well...just adjust this line:
And set change the inj scaling from 513 to whatever it is now.
B, if possible see if your rom has the 2 byte load modification posted for it. Make that change and then you won't have to worry about calculated load which is inaccurate anyway.
Code:
<DataListItem DataLog="Y" Color="" Display="Load Calculated" LogReference="LoadCalc" RequestID="00" Eval="5*513*([InjPulseWidth]-(-0.1026*[Battery]+1.8741))/[AFRMAP]" Unit="load" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="500" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="500" Notes="5*InjScaling*([InjPulseWidth]-(-0.1026*[Battery]+1.8741))/[AFRMAP]"/>
B, if possible see if your rom has the 2 byte load modification posted for it. Make that change and then you won't have to worry about calculated load which is inaccurate anyway.
I know but it's much easier in mitsulogger for the average customer of mine
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