LC-1 installed, logging AFR without serial cable
This is awesome... Does anybody have a diagram of the pinout on the o2 sensor connector side? Since I have completely removed the sensor couldn't I just plug the analog wire into the pin going to the ECU at the o2 connector and not have to mess with the ECU plug?
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id definately try this, but i figured out how to get my LC-1 to talk tot the computer finally and am enjoying the honeymoon
here is a write up i made on how to get out of "Innovate hell"
http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=58278.0
Im going to now add this to my thread... Thanks MR Fred!
Wrong. They still have the same cable connection problem, and its due to the computer. Not the WB itself. Zeitronix is very similar to Innovate.
I believed all you people that were talking sh-t on Innovate (ive had this unit for the last 2 cars), and freaked out with my computer problems. I actually went into Innovate's main office and got help from Felipe in there. They checked everything on the unit. 0 problems. It was all the computer and cable i was using.
please, quit spreading rumor, unless you really have had specific problems related to the unit itself.
id definately try this, but i figured out how to get my LC-1 to talk tot the computer finally and am enjoying the honeymoon

here is a write up i made on how to get out of "Innovate hell"
http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=58278.0
Im going to now add this to my thread... Thanks MR Fred!
I believed all you people that were talking sh-t on Innovate (ive had this unit for the last 2 cars), and freaked out with my computer problems. I actually went into Innovate's main office and got help from Felipe in there. They checked everything on the unit. 0 problems. It was all the computer and cable i was using.
please, quit spreading rumor, unless you really have had specific problems related to the unit itself.
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Wrong. They still have the same cable connection problem, and its due to the computer. Not the WB itself. Zeitronix is very similar to Innovate.
I believed all you people that were talking sh-t on Innovate (ive had this unit for the last 2 cars), and freaked out with my computer problems. I actually went into Innovate's main office and got help from Felipe in there. They checked everything on the unit. 0 problems. It was all the computer and cable i was using.
please, quit spreading rumor, unless you really have had specific problems related to the unit itself.
I believed all you people that were talking sh-t on Innovate (ive had this unit for the last 2 cars), and freaked out with my computer problems. I actually went into Innovate's main office and got help from Felipe in there. They checked everything on the unit. 0 problems. It was all the computer and cable i was using.
please, quit spreading rumor, unless you really have had specific problems related to the unit itself.
^yea, i got that there were a few with problems, i had a buddy with one that had a heater problem. His unit was newer than mine, too, which made me leary. But any company as large as Innovate (they make more than car products) will have problems with electronics from time to time, all it takes is a 1 bad batch of hardware.
Ive also had people with Zeitronix having problems connecting with Vista, that was one of the main reasons i made that thread.
but they use the same sensor, so for all intents and purposes i see them as prettymuch the same unit. One just hase a different box than the other. (My boss knows the owner of Zeitronics and always gives me crap for having a LC-1...) But they are trying to come up with new stuff. The new LM-2 and LC-2 are supposed to have USB capability. I think they are a decent unit, American tuners have been using them for years without any issues.
and FWIW, in a bench/ragmag racing test the LC-1 beat all other units for accuracy.
Ive also had people with Zeitronix having problems connecting with Vista, that was one of the main reasons i made that thread.
but they use the same sensor, so for all intents and purposes i see them as prettymuch the same unit. One just hase a different box than the other. (My boss knows the owner of Zeitronics and always gives me crap for having a LC-1...) But they are trying to come up with new stuff. The new LM-2 and LC-2 are supposed to have USB capability. I think they are a decent unit, American tuners have been using them for years without any issues.
and FWIW, in a bench/ragmag racing test the LC-1 beat all other units for accuracy.
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I've got a writeup partially complete. Probably have it done today or tomorrow.
Yeah you can use this with the Zetronix unit too. Zeitronix has a standard analog output and a LINEAR analog output which is even more kickass and uses the full 0-5v range for higher resolution.
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yay mine works. swear my cables are ****ed.. had to spend about 15 mins programming the LC1 as the settings would just keep going wierd!
anyways I'm using 0-5v where 0=10.00AFR and 5V=16.99 (lc1 rounded from 17.00)
which means the Evoscan formula is "10.00+6.99*x/255" - just looking at a log now
IGNORE THE ACTUAL AFR - I'm having problems with it
If you are using TephraMod V5, you will need to log 0xFFFF8409 as this is the new variable for the Real Rear02 ADC, I just replaced my MUT3C with 0xFFFF8409!
anyways I'm using 0-5v where 0=10.00AFR and 5V=16.99 (lc1 rounded from 17.00)
which means the Evoscan formula is "10.00+6.99*x/255" - just looking at a log now

IGNORE THE ACTUAL AFR - I'm having problems with it

Code:
Time RawWB WB02 RawMAP GMMAP WGDC RPM Load TPS Timing Speed IPW IDC KnockSum 1689.57812 91 12.5 106 4.1 72 2965 131 100 17 50 7.936 19.6 0 1689.65625 84 12.3 111 5.0 70 3004 138 100 15 54 8.448 21.1 0 1689.73438 71 11.9 115 5.7 68.5 3039 144 100 13 54 9.216 23.3 0 1689.8125 57 11.6 120 6.6 67 3082 152 100 11 54 10.24 26.3 0 1689.89062 53 11.5 122 6.9 66 3133 161 100 10 54 11.264 29.4 0 1689.96875 36 11.0 131 8.5 65.5 3168 170 100 9 54 12.288 32.4 0 1690.04688 31 10.9 139 9.9 64.5 3234 181 100 8 54 13.056 35.2 0 1690.10938 26 10.7 145 11.0 64 3258 191 100 6 54 14.08 38.2 0 1690.20312 28 10.8 149 11.7 64 3332 201 100 5 54 15.104 41.9 0 1690.28125 31 10.9 158 13.3 64 3371 215 100 4 54 15.872 44.6 0 1690.35938 29 10.8 168 15.0 64 3438 224 100 3 58 16.896 48.4 1 1690.4375 34 10.9 176 16.4 64 3484 232 100 2 58 17.408 50.5 1 1690.53125 32 10.9 189 18.7 64.5 3555 162 100 1 58 17.152 50.8 1 1690.625 29 10.8 190 18.9 65 3617 236 100 2 58 17.152 51.7 1 1690.6875 20 10.5 192 19.2 66 3699 228 100 3 58 16.896 52.1 0 1690.78125 23 10.6 188 18.5 66 3766 228 100 3 58 16.64 52.2 0 1690.85938 20 10.5 191 19.1 66.5 3852 225 100 4 58 16.64 53.4 0 1690.95312 24 10.7 193 19.4 68 3895 223 100 4 58 16.384 53.2 0 1691.04688 30 10.8 187 18.4 68.5 4004 224 100 4 68 16.64 55.5 0 1691.125 22 10.6 189 18.7 68.5 4047 228 100 3 68 16.64 56.1 0 1691.21875 25 10.7 194 19.6 69 4148 230 100 3 68 16.64 57.5 0 1691.3125 26 10.7 197 20.1 69 4215 227 100 3 68 16.384 57.5 0 1691.40625 27 10.7 197 20.1 69.5 4305 229 100 4 68 16.384 58.8 0 1691.46875 27 10.7 199 20.5 69.5 4332 227 100 4 68 16.384 59.1 0 1691.54688 29 10.8 191 19.1 70 4445 229 100 4 68 16.128 59.7 0 1691.625 31 10.9 197 20.1 70 4480 230 100 4 68 16.128 60.2 0 1691.70312 33 10.9 194 19.6 70.5 4555 230 100 4 68 16.64 63.2 0 1691.79688 30 10.8 200 20.6 70.5 4617 236 100 4 78 16.64 64.0 0 1691.89062 32 10.9 206 21.7 71 4719 236 100 4 78 16.64 65.4 0 1691.96875 31 10.9 203 21.2 70.5 4766 240 100 3 78 16.896 67.1 0 1692.0625 31 10.9 199 20.5 71.5 4875 235 100 3 78 16.64 67.6 1 1692.15625 26 10.7 200 20.6 71 4914 235 100 3 78 16.384 67.1 1 1692.23438 29 10.8 203 21.2 71.5 4000 232 100 3 78 16.128 53.8 0 1692.3125 27 10.7 194 19.6 71 5102 227 100 5 78 15.872 67.5 0 1692.40625 35 11.0 200 20.6 70.5 5102 226 100 5 78 15.872 67.5 0 1692.5 36 11.0 193 19.4 71 5242 225 100 5 90 15.872 69.3 0 1692.60938 29 10.8 191 19.1 71 5273 227 100 6 90 15.872 69.8 0 1692.70312 23 10.6 195 19.8 71.5 5387 225 100 6 90 15.616 70.1 0 1692.79688 23 10.6 188 18.5 72 5457 223 100 6 90 15.872 72.2 0 1692.89062 29 10.8 187 18.4 72 5523 225 100 6 90 15.616 71.9 0 1692.96875 26 10.7 188 18.5 73 5570 227 100 7 90 15.872 73.7 0 1693.04688 20 10.5 193 19.4 72.5 5672 227 100 7 90 15.872 75.0 0 1693.14062 11 10.3 192 19.2 73.5 5707 227 100 7 100 15.872 75.5 0 1693.23438 19 10.5 187 18.4 73.5 5805 226 100 8 100 15.616 75.5 0 1693.29688 17 10.5 194 19.6 73.5 5855 225 100 8 100 15.616 76.2 0 1693.39062 22 10.6 185 18.0 73 5918 224 100 9 100 15.616 77.0 0 1693.48438 23 10.6 188 18.5 73 5965 224 100 9 100 15.616 77.6 0 1693.5625 15 10.4 187 18.4 73.5 6043 224 100 10 100 15.616 78.6 0 1693.65625 14 10.4 184 17.8 73.5 6102 223 100 10 100 15.36 78.1 0 1693.75 13 10.4 190 18.9 75 6188 220 100 10 100 15.36 79.2 0 1693.82812 11 10.3 184 17.8 75 6250 221 100 11 100 15.104 78.7 0 1693.90625 21 10.6 192 19.2 75.5 6309 220 100 11 110 15.104 79.4 0 1693.98438 18 10.5 190 18.9 75.5 6367 221 100 10 110 15.36 81.5 1 1694.07812 20 10.5 185 18.0 76 6426 221 100 10 110 15.104 80.9 1 1694.15625 18 10.5 193 19.4 76.5 6492 220 100 10 110 15.104 81.7 1 1694.23438 24 10.7 185 18.0 76.5 6555 220 100 10 110 15.104 82.5 3 1694.32812 21 10.6 192 19.2 77 6613 221 100 11 110 15.104 83.2 3 1694.40625 19 10.5 189 18.7 77 6672 221 100 11 110 15.104 84.0 3 1694.5 24 10.7 193 19.4 77 6727 222 100 11 110 15.104 84.7 3 1694.57812 21 10.6 192 19.2 77 6793 220 100 12 120 15.104 85.5 3 1694.67188 19 10.5 190 18.9 77 6848 219 100 12 120 14.848 84.7 3 1694.75 26 10.7 184 17.8 77 6930 218 100 13 120 14.848 85.7 3
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For your v5 patch, you've changed the rear O2 ADC variable to FFFF8409 on all your patched ROMs?







