plugs for e85
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plugs for e85
What kind of plugs do you guys running E85 use? I was running one step colder plugs on my 92 octane tune but I recently switched to E85 and I'm getting crazy, scary misfire. Should I change back to stock or go warmer? I did a quick search and didn't find anything really. No definite answer.
What kind of plugs do you guys running E85 use? I was running one step colder plugs on my 92 octane tune but I recently switched to E85 and I'm getting crazy, scary misfire. Should I change back to stock or go warmer? I did a quick search and didn't find anything really. No definite answer.
Currently I am running BPR7ES's gapped to 0.024", the bottom of the factory spec. Coincidentally, yesterday out on lunch I was getting blow-out with this set-up. I gapped some BPR8ES's last night to 0.024" to try out this weekend. I am running 27-28.5psi, FWIW..
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I regapped my BPR8ES this morning to .024". It ran fine for about 4 pulls trying to tune the car then started misfiring again. My AFRs were in the 11's right before peak torque (3.8k-4.5k) then went down to 10's. Maybe it's running too lean?
I've been lowering the AFRs all day to see if it would help. No change.
I put in some BPR7ES and will report back for help. Gapped as .24". Will try .020 if it doesn't help.
I've been lowering the AFRs all day to see if it would help. No change.
I put in some BPR7ES and will report back for help. Gapped as .24". Will try .020 if it doesn't help.
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Well, it sounds a lot like it's misfiring...although it may have been running out of fuel and cutting out rapidly.
I'm on...
1000cc PTE
Standard Walbro
Factory FPR
Injectors are scaled to 665. Too high? Fuel trims are in check pretty much.
I'm on...
1000cc PTE
Standard Walbro
Factory FPR
Injectors are scaled to 665. Too high? Fuel trims are in check pretty much.
No it's pretty consistent. Usually no knock.
How it burns is not the point here. You will run high boost leading to higher cylinder pressures and higher temps, so you need to run a colder plug. 7 are stock. 8 is a step colder. You also need to reduce gap because it's hard for stock coils to produce a spark with a big gap at such high cylinder pressures. Which most likely leads to what you are experiencing with spark breaking up on WOT.
Bigger gap is better because it provides a bigger spark essentially leading to a better light off and burn and leads to better power production, but you need a COP ignition to be able to run a wider gap. Without it it has to be reduced to 0.019-.022 at something like 28 psi. Results obviously vary from motor to motor.
How it burns is not the point here. You will run high boost leading to higher cylinder pressures and higher temps, so you need to run a colder plug. 7 are stock. 8 is a step colder. You also need to reduce gap because it's hard for stock coils to produce a spark with a big gap at such high cylinder pressures. Which most likely leads to what you are experiencing with spark breaking up on WOT.
Bigger gap is better because it provides a bigger spark essentially leading to a better light off and burn and leads to better power production, but you need a COP ignition to be able to run a wider gap. Without it it has to be reduced to 0.019-.022 at something like 28 psi. Results obviously vary from motor to motor.
Last edited by mplspilot; May 23, 2008 at 09:58 AM.







