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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Fuel trims and idle

Logging with Evo scan 2.5 or Mitsulogger my fuel trims dont move, idle hunts a lot 14.8 to 17.4 A/R after warm up with load (AC or Lights). Changed front o2 sensor makes no difference but if I unplug o2 sensor idles fine, A/R 15.3. I did not find any leaks. This started happening after my battery went dead for week or two.
Any ideas guys?

Mods are, GM 3" MAF with MAF Translator, stock ECU and scaling, walbro 255, 880cc injectors, Fuel Labs regulator, Comp 272s, Ultimate Racing GT35R bb,
3" exhaust, Bushur COP, ETS intercooler pipe kit, and 4" intake.

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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 02:58 AM
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what are your fuel trims?

not sure about your MAFT - hopefully someone that knows can chime in
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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what are your fuel trims?

not sure about your MAFT - hopefully someone that knows can chime in
Thanks for the reply Tephra, my fuel trims are 0.1008, the car hunts but seems to idle better when I disconnect the front o2 sensor( which is brand new) it did the same thing with the old sensor also. I will attach my ROM. if that may help. It idled
pretty good on the 96940011 rom. I cant find any vacuum leaks, running out of ideas.
Any help greatly appreciated.

Using the Tephra v5.10mod for 96530006.

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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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what is your o2feedback saying...

I believe razorlab also had the problem where fuel trims wouldn't change.

o2feedback should give you some ideas as to your trims
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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o2 feedback 0.304volts for both sensors after playing around with the MAF-T.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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My rom is 117kb zipped too big to upload.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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your o2feedback should be a % and also be jumping up and down quite a bit..
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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sorry was thinking of the o2 sensor. o2 feedback does not move 0.1008%.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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hrmm thats bad.

ok what does your front o2 voltage show? static or changing?
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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or maybe you are never going into closed loop?
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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hrmm thats bad.

ok what does your front o2 voltage show? static or changing?
Its changing.
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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or maybe you are never going into closed loop?
Why?
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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because your trims arn't changing...

what do your openloop load AND TPS #1 and #2 tables look like?
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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because your trims arn't changing...

what do your openloop load AND TPS #1 and #2 tables look like?
I have attached both tables.
Thanks Tephra for your help, you are the only one who tried to help me.

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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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ok so they are stock.

hrmm what about the open loop tps tables?

also what about "min temp for closed loop" or something like that...

no worries - its busy time of year for most ppl - so yeah
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