Breakup After hardshifts, Possible Knock , please help.
Breakup After hardshifts, Possible Knock , please help.
Hey guys , ill try to explain the situation the best i can. Unfortunatly my laptop is down so it makes it about 10x harder. My car was running sluggish about a 2 weeks ago. Felt like it was Running way to rich at the top of gears. I change out the oil/sparkplugs , check for anything abnormal etc find nothing. After changing the plugs car felt a lot better , Weird part was they were gapped at .034 Because guy told me they came gapped @ .028 and i didnt have my gapper on me.
So i go up to my buddys , me and 3 others hop in the car. +700lbs ish of people besides me. Do 1 pull (21psi) , Records zero knock , timing is dead one etc ( Car was tuned at turbo trix bout 2 years ago ) A/F is dipping very low in the high RPMS Im talking low 9's.
We then up the boost to 25psi , Cars A lot stronger this time , Still zero knock , timing is good. Dont feel any bogging down. A/F still in the low 9's. So i try to take out .5 Worth of fuel @ the correct load. Do another pull , i feel car knocking so i let off , A/F was still dead rich and i was getting 6-9 Counts of knock , add back in .3Fuel. And the car runs mint! even though the A/F still was off.
Then on the way home , with just me in the car ( -700lbs ) , I do a pull , cars strong up untill 6.5k then it starts to breakup or knock a little i couldn't tell. The next day same things going on but ONLY when i shift out hard , 6k+ Almost sounds like im hitting fuel cut. I pulled plugs , Regapped to .025 , Got on it today and it felt like a dog. ( Plugs looked fine too by the way )
Is there anything anyone reccomends doing while i wait to get a lappy back so i can hook up the evoscan to the car again.
Sorry for the wall of text , Didnt wanna post this unless i really couldn't figure this out.
All mods in sig
So i go up to my buddys , me and 3 others hop in the car. +700lbs ish of people besides me. Do 1 pull (21psi) , Records zero knock , timing is dead one etc ( Car was tuned at turbo trix bout 2 years ago ) A/F is dipping very low in the high RPMS Im talking low 9's.
We then up the boost to 25psi , Cars A lot stronger this time , Still zero knock , timing is good. Dont feel any bogging down. A/F still in the low 9's. So i try to take out .5 Worth of fuel @ the correct load. Do another pull , i feel car knocking so i let off , A/F was still dead rich and i was getting 6-9 Counts of knock , add back in .3Fuel. And the car runs mint! even though the A/F still was off.
Then on the way home , with just me in the car ( -700lbs ) , I do a pull , cars strong up untill 6.5k then it starts to breakup or knock a little i couldn't tell. The next day same things going on but ONLY when i shift out hard , 6k+ Almost sounds like im hitting fuel cut. I pulled plugs , Regapped to .025 , Got on it today and it felt like a dog. ( Plugs looked fine too by the way )
Is there anything anyone reccomends doing while i wait to get a lappy back so i can hook up the evoscan to the car again.
Sorry for the wall of text , Didnt wanna post this unless i really couldn't figure this out.
All mods in sig
Now, are you logging boost? Can you post logs? Have you re-calibrated your LC1? What changed when the car starting running poorly? The most obvious scenario is your car has a boost leak (MAF thinks you have a ton more air than is actually entering the engine, thus causing the rich condition)....
Check for boost leaks and after you find / fix it, make sure you change the fuel map back to where it was....
Fuel map was only changed .2 , AFR was always 14.6range , about a week ago ( when this started going on ) randomly bumped itself to 15.0 ish . And i recalibrated the LC-1 4 days ago ( to make sure it was on point ) I have the Orginal Tune saved just in case.
My boost leak tester is down @ my fathers house , Wich i wont be able to get a hold for a few days , But thats the 1st thing i suppose i should look for.
Thanks for backing up my thoughts , just making sure i wasnt missing anything
My boost leak tester is down @ my fathers house , Wich i wont be able to get a hold for a few days , But thats the 1st thing i suppose i should look for.
Thanks for backing up my thoughts , just making sure i wasnt missing anything
Gap the plugs to .025 first. What is timing at peak torque and at 7K? Good starting points for the VIII are 3* at peak torque and 12* up top. You have a lot of mods to get more air in/out. If you really are running that rich, it is possible that TT put in way more timing on a rich tune. It is rare but there is such a thing as rich knock
Id double check the tune for the injector scaling/ latency done properly, those are pretty big injectors. If not scaled right, the AFR will be way off matching what the LC-1 is saying.
Lastly if the inj dump enough fuel the 255 might not be able to keep up at high rpm. Just a thought.
Maybe you can post the tables and timing so the gurus here can comment
Milburn
Id double check the tune for the injector scaling/ latency done properly, those are pretty big injectors. If not scaled right, the AFR will be way off matching what the LC-1 is saying.
Lastly if the inj dump enough fuel the 255 might not be able to keep up at high rpm. Just a thought.
Maybe you can post the tables and timing so the gurus here can comment
Milburn
Last edited by WRC-LVR; Mar 28, 2009 at 08:41 AM.
Gap the plugs to .025 first. What is timing at peak torque and at 7K? Good starting points for the VIII are 3* at peak torque and 12* up top. You have a lot of mods to get more air in/out. If you really are running that rich, it is possible that TT put in way more timing on a rich tune. It is rare but there is such a thing as rich knock
Id double check the tune for the injector scaling/ latency done properly, those are pretty big injectors. If not scaled right, the AFR will be way off matching what the LC-1 is saying.
Lastly if the inj dump enough fuel the 255 might not be able to keep up at high rpm. Just a thought.
Maybe you can post the tables and timing so the gurus here can comment
Milburn
Id double check the tune for the injector scaling/ latency done properly, those are pretty big injectors. If not scaled right, the AFR will be way off matching what the LC-1 is saying.
Lastly if the inj dump enough fuel the 255 might not be able to keep up at high rpm. Just a thought.
Maybe you can post the tables and timing so the gurus here can comment
Milburn
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