Suggestion need on my 4th gear pull
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Suggestions need on my 4th gear pull
Attached are the log file of my 4th gear WOT and other file and screenshots. There were some knocks when boost peak and I removed them by lower the timing by 1. This is a 4th gear pull as you can see the speed is 113 mph up top.
Please view it and let me know your suggestions that may help improve my tune.
This is for 05 MR with the basics bold-ons:
tbe (test pipe), hallman mbc, K&N filter, HKS 272s, PTE 780cc, Walbro fuel pump on straight Mobil 91 gas. The boost is peak at 24 psi and tapped down to 20 as you'll see in the log.
I included the flash file so that those with similar mods can check it out. The car idle great, daily driving good, reasonable good at WOT (see log). All done by myself so don't worry about vendor issue or anything like that. Let share and gain knowledge. Please note that the zipped file was splitted into 2 parts so make sure to remove the file extension from the "91 oct-map.z01.zip" to "91 oct-map.z01" in order to unzip
Thank for looking and any suggestion.
UPDATED: Please look at my updated fuel map on page 2 for reference. I'm no longer using this map that you see here.
Please view it and let me know your suggestions that may help improve my tune.
This is for 05 MR with the basics bold-ons:
tbe (test pipe), hallman mbc, K&N filter, HKS 272s, PTE 780cc, Walbro fuel pump on straight Mobil 91 gas. The boost is peak at 24 psi and tapped down to 20 as you'll see in the log.
I included the flash file so that those with similar mods can check it out. The car idle great, daily driving good, reasonable good at WOT (see log). All done by myself so don't worry about vendor issue or anything like that. Let share and gain knowledge. Please note that the zipped file was splitted into 2 parts so make sure to remove the file extension from the "91 oct-map.z01.zip" to "91 oct-map.z01" in order to unzip
Thank for looking and any suggestion.
UPDATED: Please look at my updated fuel map on page 2 for reference. I'm no longer using this map that you see here.
Last edited by G20; Apr 6, 2009 at 04:54 PM. Reason: Updated
the pull looks fine. Pull 1* @ 3000/240 load, and 3500/260load.
Fuel map is all over the place! Did you scale the injectors, or you avoiding that, by adjusting the fuel map?
You might wanna consider adding a 250 load column to your map, as youre at 250 load @ peak +. (less interpolation) take out 70 load and add 250.
Fuel map is all over the place! Did you scale the injectors, or you avoiding that, by adjusting the fuel map?
You might wanna consider adding a 250 load column to your map, as youre at 250 load @ peak +. (less interpolation) take out 70 load and add 250.
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My injectors scaling is set as 522. The latency values are
4.69 3.504
7.03 2.184
9.38 1.320
11.72 0.840
14.06 0.528
16.41 0.350
18.68 0.240
What is wrong with my fuel map? I know it may not looks pretty as expected but I was paying most of my attention on the log when adjusting it.
So how is the so called "ideal" fueld map should be looked like?
4.69 3.504
7.03 2.184
9.38 1.320
11.72 0.840
14.06 0.528
16.41 0.350
18.68 0.240
What is wrong with my fuel map? I know it may not looks pretty as expected but I was paying most of my attention on the log when adjusting it.
So how is the so called "ideal" fueld map should be looked like?
Last edited by G20; Mar 30, 2009 at 02:06 PM.
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the pull looks fine. Pull 1* @ 3000/240 load, and 3500/260load.
Fuel map is all over the place! Did you scale the injectors, or you avoiding that, by adjusting the fuel map?
You might wanna consider adding a 250 load column to your map, as youre at 250 load @ peak +. (less interpolation) take out 70 load and add 250.
Fuel map is all over the place! Did you scale the injectors, or you avoiding that, by adjusting the fuel map?
You might wanna consider adding a 250 load column to your map, as youre at 250 load @ peak +. (less interpolation) take out 70 load and add 250.
thank for the suggestion. Now I'll have to read the load column scaling to do that.
Last edited by G20; Mar 30, 2009 at 02:05 PM.
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It should look similar to stock in the way it flows, you are jumping all over the place w/ your fuel values.
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Trust me! I'm one of the first who got the car tuned by someone suppose to "know" what they're doing and got burned out of my cash bad. I know not every one the same but I decided to learn the thing and help others who may need it.
I haven't had to scale 780's but my guess is that you should up the global scaling and then work on your STFT / LTFT's by dialing in latencies. Your map's target AFR don't need to match your wideband, it's just a value. You should attempt to adjust the map so it makes gradual transitions as the car moves through the rev range (RPM) and load range.
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I haven't had to scale 780's but my guess is that you should up the global scaling and then work on your STFT / LTFT's by dialing in latencies. Your map's target AFR don't need to match your wideband, it's just a value. You should attempt to adjust the map so it makes gradual transitions as the car moves through the rev range (RPM) and load range.
Its obvious, the injectors could be dialed in a lil better by the look of your fuel map. Like we have said, ur fuel map is all over the place. The values in your Fuel map are just values, not actuall AFR, but if you have the scaling/latencies dialed in, it should be very close to actuall AFR ~ -.5 difference.
The way you have it, it might give you the AFR in your logs that ur looking for, but the ecu has to do all kinds of work to keep it in range. Confirm what is in the injector scaling thread for your injectors, and maybe try that scaling/latency... not sure if your scaling/latencies from there...
And yes, you can tell if your scaling is off, just by the look of the map. It will look linear when your scaling and latencies are dialed in.
The way you have it, it might give you the AFR in your logs that ur looking for, but the ecu has to do all kinds of work to keep it in range. Confirm what is in the injector scaling thread for your injectors, and maybe try that scaling/latency... not sure if your scaling/latencies from there...
And yes, you can tell if your scaling is off, just by the look of the map. It will look linear when your scaling and latencies are dialed in.







