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Old May 6, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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I'm betting on the fuel pump or relay
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Not trying to be an A$$, but sometimes we just overlook simple things;

Is there gas in the tank?
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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would you be able to tell if a fuse was blown, just by looking at it, or am I gonna have to pull all of them out? sorry for the dumb question, I know, but when it comes to mechanics, I guess Im dumb.
Its easier to see when its pulled out.

Fuse locations are in the engine bay and one in the interior to the left of the steering column under the dash, while sitting.

Sometimes what happens is the main fuse for the ECU blows because the rear o2 sensor will short out or something else and the car will not start but still turn over.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mysta Joe
Not trying to be an A$$, but sometimes we just overlook simple things;

Is there gas in the tank?
no worries, I thought about that as well... According to the guage, I have just under a 1/2 tank.

Im still waiting for this fool to come over... 2 hours later...
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
Its easier to see when its pulled out.

Fuse locations are in the engine bay and one in the interior to the left of the steering column under the dash, while sitting.

Sometimes what happens is the main fuse for the ECU blows because the rear o2 sensor will short out or something else and the car will not start but still turn over.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nonschlont
no worries, I thought about that as well... According to the guage, I have just under a 1/2 tank.

Im still waiting for this fool to comeover... 2 hours later...
Make sure you have your e-brake on and when you friend gets there have him/her lay under the car near the fuel tank.

Get in the car and turn the key to the on position. If you friend hears nothing coming from the tank (hearing for a "robot turning on" kinda sound effect) then you have a bad pump or fuse to that pump.

To check the fuse, lift the fuse cover from the one in the engine bay. If you don't understand how to correlate the fuses to underneath the cover just pull the 15-20amp fuses out one at a time and check them. This whole process should only take 10 minutes.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cornercarver
Make sure you have your e-brake on and when you friend gets there have him/her lay under the car near the fuel tank.

Get in the car and turn the key to the on position. If you friend hears nothing coming from the tank (hearing for a "robot turning on" kinda sound effect) then you have a bad pump or fuse to that pump.

To check the fuse, lift the fuse cover from the one in the engine bay. If you don't understand how to correlate the fuses to underneath the cover just pull the 15-20amp fuses out one at a time and check them. This whole process should only take 10 minutes.
Oh hell no thats way too much work for listening.

Pull the tabs on the rear seat to remove it there is one on each side near the doors on the front/bottom of the seat. There will be two covers one passenger side and one of the driver side. The fuel pump is on the drivers side. You could pop the cover to hear it easy, i think 4 screws. Just have your buddy listen with his/her ear near the sending unit.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cornercarver
Make sure you have your e-brake on and when you friend gets there have him/her lay under the car near the fuel tank.

Get in the car and turn the key to the on position. If you friend hears nothing coming from the tank (hearing for a "robot turning on" kinda sound effect) then you have a bad pump or fuse to that pump.

To check the fuse, lift the fuse cover from the one in the engine bay. If you don't understand how to correlate the fuses to underneath the cover just pull the 15-20amp fuses out one at a time and check them. This whole process should only take 10 minutes.
will do.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
Oh hell no thats way too much work for listening.

Pull the tabs on the rear seat to remove it there is one on each side near the doors on the front/bottom of the seat. There will be two covers one passenger side and one of the driver side. The fuel pump is on the drivers side. You could pop the cover to hear it easy, i think 4 screws. Just have your buddy listen with his/her ear near the sending unit.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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As a side note make sure you check every fuse.. There are some 5amp ones that run the Ecu in the interior and a 15 or 20 amp one in the engine bay. Its best to just go through them all. The cover should tell you what circuit has a failure if any.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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I put my spark plug cover on one day and not knowing, pinched the wire for the front 02. It blew engine fuse #20 (has a little check engine light logo on the fuse panel) If you replace it and it blows again, chances are a wire (front or rear) is still grounding out somewhere. I blew 5 before I figured it out. All in 15 min.


EDIT* Fuse is under the hood, not in the car.

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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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just pulled the seat out, and took off the plate to the fp, so if/when this fkr shows up, it'll be ready... Im gonna go thru the fuses now...

Thanks for the advice/input guys, really appreciate it.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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ok after a long day, pulled a plug out, had spark. He tapped on the tank, and the guage went empty, light came on, so I thought I needed gas... Went to get 5 gallons, came home to put it in, and noticed, no change. Finally pulled out the fp/sending unit, and noticed not only did I now have a full tank, but also one of the lil wires to the sending unit was loose. Tightened that back up, and the car started and stayed on. Let it sit for a bit, idling, turned it off, tried it again, and still started...

My only issue now is, the gas guage is only reading 1/2 a tank, when I can see that its fairly close to being full... Took it for a spin, thinking it needed to settle or something... But same 1/2 tank...
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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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Sounds like an intermittent problem, a loose sender wire isn't going to cause no start.

Intermittent it's probably not a fuse. Fuses best checked with a LED test light $10 at auto zone. Some fuse assortments come with a little tester but it may be micky-mouse.

A spark test is not really valid using a spark plug. This is because it's too easy for the spark to jump a plug gap at ambient atmospheric pressure. Under the high pressure of compression/boost it's a lot harder for the spark to jump plug gap. Therefore the only valid test is to jump spark about 3/8" to 1/2" at atmosphere. Use a skinny screwdriver with WELL insulated handle, end in the plug boot and hold that gap from a suitable ground. This will test for weak coils, ignitors, etc. A cheapy 1/2" gap spark tester is about $5.

Without a gauge test fuel pressure by (key off right after key has been on) cracking a line fitting at the fuel rail and (carefully) see if it sprays fuel. (careful, it's almost 50psi.) (fire extinguisher ready)

Quick fuel injector test is for an audible click. Use a long skinny screwdriver as a makeshift stethoscope, grab the handle in a fist and put it to your ear, other end rest right on the injector and have assistant crank the engine. Should be a rhythmic clicking.

what do the spark plugs look like? Wet? Dry?, Black? Tan?

Does the IX have the problem with corroded wires at the upper left driver kick panel above the dash fuse box? My notes show it does although I've never seen this myself. Might cause an intermittent.

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