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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Help Please with Boost Control 30R and Tial

Hi there guys.

Im wanting to control my boost using the stock ecu on my 30R with 44mm Tial external to @35psi.
I have wired in a Mac valve N/Closed to the top of the wastegate, the same as when using my ProfecB. Everything is working okish as long as I dont want to boost too high.

I basically just want to run on duty cycle only and not worry about error correction etc at the moment. I thought that increasing the Load Offset to allow for running up to 400load would let me just set the duty cycles as i want.

I set the Load Offset to 200 and increased all the Boost Desired Engine load tables to 159.4, BUT the ecu keeps reducing WGDC as soon as the load goes over 220-240 ish. When I first hit into boost the load gets to 300 then gets massively corrected down to 220 then the WGDC goes higher again and allows the load to pick up again then gets dropped again.

Also at idle the WDC is like 78% is that normal????

stockduty_200loadoffset_159%load.zip

My vehicle is a Mitsi Airtrek Turbo 83540008 rom

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a...4e75f6e8ebb871


Could someone check thru the def below and make sure the address for load offset is correct.




<table name="WGDC correction delay" category="Turbo" address="1af0" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint16"/>

<table name="WGDC Correction update delay #2" category="Turbo" address="1af3" type="1D" level="1" scaling="uint16"/>



<table name="Boost Control Load Offset" address="1b0a"/>


<table name="Turbo Boost Error Correction" address="474c">
<table name="Boost Error" address="61ea"/>
</table>

<table name="Boost Desired Engine Load # 1" address="47a6" level="4">
<table name="RPM" address="614e" elements="16">
<data>500</data>
<data>1000</data>
<data>1500</data>
<data>2000</data>
<data>2250</data>
<data>2500</data>
<data>2750</data>
<data>3000</data>
<data>3500</data>
<data>4000</data>
<data>4500</data>
<data>5000</data>
<data>5500</data>
<data>6000</data>
<data>6500</data>
<data>7000</data>
</table>
</table>

<table name="Boost Desired Engine Load # 2" address="47bc" level="4">
<table name="RPM" address="614e" elements="16" scaling="RPM">
<data>500</data>
<data>1000</data>
<data>1500</data>
<data>2000</data>
<data>2250</data>
<data>2500</data>
<data>2750</data>
<data>3000</data>
<data>3500</data>
<data>4000</data>
<data>4500</data>
<data>5000</data>
<data>5500</data>
<data>6000</data>
<data>6500</data>
<data>7000</data>
</table>
</table>

<table name="Boost Desired Engine Load # 3" address="47d2" level="4">
<table name="RPM" address="614e" elements="16">
<data>500</data>
<data>1000</data>
<data>1500</data>
<data>2000</data>
<data>2250</data>
<data>2500</data>
<data>2750</data>
<data>3000</data>
<data>3500</data>
<data>4000</data>
<data>4500</data>
<data>5000</data>
<data>5500</data>
<data>6000</data>
<data>6500</data>
<data>7000</data>
</table>
</table>

<table name="Max Wastegate Duty # 1" address="4764">
<table name="RPM" address="614e" elements="16">
<data>500</data>
<data>1000</data>
<data>1500</data>
<data>2000</data>
<data>2250</data>
<data>2500</data>
<data>2750</data>
<data>3000</data>
<data>3500</data>
<data>4000</data>
<data>4500</data>
<data>5000</data>
<data>5500</data>
<data>6000</data>
<data>6500</data>
<data>7000</data>
</table>
</table>

<table name="Max Wastegate Duty # 2" address="477a">
<table name="RPM" address="614e" elements="16">
<data>500</data>
<data>1000</data>
<data>1500</data>
<data>2000</data>
<data>2250</data>
<data>2500</data>
<data>2750</data>
<data>3000</data>
<data>3500</data>
<data>4000</data>
<data>4500</data>
<data>5000</data>
<data>5500</data>
<data>6000</data>
<data>6500</data>
<data>7000</data>
</table>
</table>

<table name="Max Wastegate Duty # 3" address="4790" level="4">
<table name="RPM" address="614e" elements="16">
<data>500</data>
<data>1000</data>
<data>1500</data>
<data>2000</data>
<data>2250</data>
<data>2500</data>
<data>2750</data>
<data>3000</data>
<data>3500</data>
<data>4000</data>
<data>4500</data>
<data>5000</data>
<data>5500</data>
<data>6000</data>
<data>6500</data>
<data>7000</data>
</table>
</table>

<table name="Wastegate Solenoid Activation RPM-Active" address="16cc" level="4"/>

<table name="Wastegate Solenoid Activation RPM-De-activate" address="16ce"/>

<table name="Wastegate Solenoid De-activation RPM-De-activate" address="16d0"/>

<table name="Wastegate Solenoid De-activation RPM-Re-activate" address="16d2"/>



Thanks in advance!!

Aaron
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 06:01 AM
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If your correction table is zeroed out it should run on base wastegate duty cycle.
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dan l
If your correction table is zeroed out it should run on base wastegate duty cycle.

On the log above it isnt zeroed out, so I did a couple of runs just now with it zeroed out and it made no difference at all
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Run on the gate, remove the EBC, and then tell us what happens. Logs would be nice!
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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i run a 30r with a 38mm tial. I have a prodrive BCS and run mrfred's direct boost control with no issues. my WGDC is about ~40% which gives 27 psi.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
Run on the gate, remove the EBC, and then tell us what happens. Logs would be nice!

Wastegate spring is 18psi and is running fine on that as Im doing that while I get the control sorted.

I know that it should work fine hence the reason that I think my definition is wrong somewhere and not allowing me the control that I should have.
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