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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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Quick question...is there anyway, using EvoScan, to tell how much load you are under? There are a couple of things with "load" in it but I'm not sure which corresponds to the kPa load used in EcuFlash.

I know Hondata K-Pro based it on manifold pressure but then again, that's a reprogrammable ecu.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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ttp knows exactly how to do it my buddys car does it to. these people are crazy....
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Babs
Well isn't that what I'm doing? Retarding timing? I know it's nowhere near the -40 to -50 degrees that WRC cars pull but I'm pretty sure anti-lag is basically retarding timing. I completely understand what you're saying though since I'm not really preventing lag therefore it's not anti-lag. I dunno the term just stuck in my head though...

Thanks for the help everybody! Can someone just point me in the direction of how to adjust the timing limit?
The most the limit can be adjusted is another -3*. You need ignition based rev limit as has been pointed out. I played with this at the very beginning (3 years at this point) and while I made some more boost the car was slower off the line. I learned to drive the car out of the hole and all of the sudden I was seeing the boost go from 7-10psi to whatever I had it set (generally pulled WG) in the first 15-20 feet.

After you get an ignition based fuel cut it needs to be timed with an additional air bypass and ALOT of fuel. I have spent alot of time looking into this only to realise it is not worthwhile and generally unneeded.

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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The IX timing retard limit is at 0x133f and uses uint8 scaling. Default will be 203, max it out by going to 255.
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Babs
Quick question...is there anyway, using EvoScan, to tell how much load you are under? There are a couple of things with "load" in it but I'm not sure which corresponds to the kPa load used in EcuFlash.

I know Hondata K-Pro based it on manifold pressure but then again, that's a reprogrammable ecu.
Log 2byte or 1 byte load.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 06:19 AM
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A real two-step uses ignition CUT, not RETARD. Basically, it misfires on purpose to push raw fuel to the manifold, where it ignites and spools the turbo.

While the point of ignition is the same as a ALS, an ALS is used to keep a turbo spooled during shifts and throttle off situations and is hardware based. Fuel is injected directly in to the manifold when the ALS is active. The terms are not interchangeable.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
The IX timing retard limit is at 0x133f and uses uint8 scaling. Default will be 203, max it out by going to 255.
Can you clarify a little more on this? Like I said, I'm new to EcuFlash but not tuning itself. Where exactly is this "0x133f" and how do I access this?

Sorry for being so clueless on all this
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
A real two-step uses ignition CUT, not RETARD. Basically, it misfires on purpose to push raw fuel to the manifold, where it ignites and spools the turbo.

While the point of ignition is the same as a ALS, an ALS is used to keep a turbo spooled during shifts and throttle off situations and is hardware based. Fuel is injected directly in to the manifold when the ALS is active. The terms are not interchangeable.
Thank you!
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Thank you!
Really?

...really?

You came into the thread to tell me that it wasn't anti-lag in a few separate posts and then come back when someone else backed your case. Without helping the situation at hand but other more capable people were willing to do that so thanks for nothing really...
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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I was just trying to explain the difference between what you want to do, what you are doing and what you are calling it.
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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is this what you after ALS LAUNCH??

I messed with it before with ecuflash on my 9 and no go, the only way to run a proper als is an aftermarket ecu
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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hi guys it can be anti lag on stock evo ecu and it has been done
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Ya...on the JDM car that has the ALS system on it.

OP - you do not have anti-lag. TouringBubble has it 100%

Now, lets stay on point.
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