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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Beeble
Chris,
now I'm confused!

for IAT and Coolant temp, Evoscan 2.8 uses x-40 for temp in C (in the imperial section)
and the formula listed above for temp in C also (for metric)

so - is the correct value for temp in C the "x-40" or the other formula
as they give values that are 5-6 C apart
eg if x=140,
temp = 100 , or temp = 94 , depending which method you choose.
94 i can live with on the track. 100 means i need to back off
Well out of the box the SST is in *C and the intake/manifold/coolant temps are in *F. All I did was apply a *F <-> *C formula to convert each one to the other. If the original formulas are off then that is a problem, LOL.

Evoscan 2.8.0005 that I have lists intake/manifold/coolant temps as 1.8*x-50 for *F with no metric equivalent so I'm assuming that (((1.8*x-50)-32)*5)/9 will convert it to Metric *C unless I screwed it up!

In your example if x=140

(((1.8*x-50)-32)*5)/9 = 72*C

1.8*x-50 = 162*F

72*C is about 162*F according to online calculators to double check my math.

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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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Your math is wrong.

Order of operations states that Multiplication goes before Addition. (Computers always follow these rules.)

You took 1.8 * (140 - 50) instead of (1.8 * 140) - 50.


The correct conversion for Celsius is x-40. The correct equation for Fahrenheit is 1.8 x - 40.


If you want an Algebraic Proof:

F = 1.8 * C + 32

Plug in the above equation of x - 40 (used to convert raw value to C)
F = 1.8 * (x - 40) + 32
F = 1.8 x - 72 + 32
F = 1.8 x - 40
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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lol
my Evoscan has two metric formulae :
x-40
and Chris's one

Thanks lads for your help. And the math class

so x-40 for my Coolant and Intake temps
and x-50 for my SST temp

done!
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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Sorry, I missed the x-50 for SST's temp.

I don't think that's right. I think the SST stuff uses x-40 = Celsius scalings.

It would be super easy to confirm. Take a cold car, turn on (don't start) and log the SST temps. They should equal ambient temps.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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^ cool.

my car hits Temp Slowdown at exactly 134 C, logged several times.
since slowdown is supposed to be at 145 C , and I'm using "x-50" to log SST Temp ...

well that makes sense
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Golden
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F = 1.8 x - 40
ding ding (for iat, mat, ct). someone needs to tell hamish to fix it for evoscan 2.9.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 11:42 PM
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^ told!
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
ding ding (for iat, mat, ct). someone needs to tell hamish to fix it for evoscan 2.9.
thanks, will do.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Golden
Sorry, I missed the x-50 for SST's temp.

I don't think that's right. I think the SST stuff uses x-40 = Celsius scalings.

It would be super easy to confirm. Take a cold car, turn on (don't start) and log the SST temps. They should equal ambient temps.
thats a great idea.

ALTHOUGH when I sniffed the MUTIII (to get these logables) I checked the MUTIII screen for what it thought the temp was...

So the MUT3 could be wrong - so someone with an SST test Goldens method
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
ding ding (for iat, mat, ct). someone needs to tell hamish to fix it for evoscan 2.9.
Originally Posted by tephra
^ told!
Originally Posted by evoscan
thanks, will do.
omg the Internet works!
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 11:49 PM
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^^ lol.

Every time i get near an SST lately its already warm!
And my own car is kinda missing a gearbox.

Someone find out this SST temp thing when it cold please
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 11:53 PM
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^ and an engine!

Yo Beeble - What are you planning on racing with? Hopes and dreams?
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 11:57 PM
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har har
the Flinstone propulsion method is looking more and more likely, i have to say.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 11:59 PM
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btw - the dyno exhaust fan exploded last night... was pretty spectacular... and pretty luck nothing was damaged (including people)
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Old Sep 16, 2011 | 12:04 AM
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Heard about that
yeah very fortunate a car/human wasn't sliced!
Guess that's what fan shrouds were invented for
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