I reckon it didn't open because you forgot to grab the "Idle RPM Offset" scale.

Rich

PS. On Golden's site, I did 56890007 too.

 

thanks rich! 56890009 looks good

 

I'll double check, I thought I had that scalling though.

Saw 0007 was done also, I still got to test that rom out for you to give you a thumbs up but going through all the tables the definitions look spot on. Just been a little busy with home life and such.

 

Rich,

You were right i was looking at the wrong xml at the time and missed the idle offset scaling in the correct xml.

 

So does anyone know when each of these 4 tables is actually called or are we simply keeping all 4 the same at all times?

I'm on stock cams so I don't have any issues yet but would love to know more details for future reference.

 

Nope, I haven't done a jot of logging or review. I was just the Table Monkey.

Rich

 

I just checked back on this and it looks like it is just like the early Mitsu tables. Cool beans.
The 4 different tables, do we have any idea what the criteria is for lookup on one vs the other? I would assume coolant temp?

 

Coolant temp like the MIVEC tables or possibly if the AC is active or not. I havent had a chance to check it yet.

 

I guess it would not be to hard to figure out. Zero them out one at a time and see what is going on....maybe.

 

I have been playing with these IS maps and gotten a feel for what I think they should be doing based on experience with the Subaru. I was watching the TPS really close and noticed that it is altering around 4% to trim (like an idle motor) as I disabled the IS from being able to pull timing if it overshoots the target.

Have we already found the DBW idle control stuff? Is it even there?

I have 2 separate 2.0L with S2s, one is a 3.5" MAF car and the other an SD stock injector car, guess which idles better?

I think I can make it work but if I had this table as well I am very confident that I'd have it licked. Defined AC ON idle tables would be sick also.

Aaron

 

I have been playing with the idle comp tables and noticed a few things.

While there are definitely some DBW target tables and I would presume trim tables, the main thing was getting the idle comp set where it cannot pull timing back out for a slight overshoot.

I modded 2 of the tables so you can see what I did compared to stock but obviously you need to do all 4-



So with 15* base at idle as set by the map I have seen the car pull up to 12* extra to maintain my target 1200rpm idle. I watched the TPS very close and noticed at 15* the TPS was pretty constant at a positive value at idle (+1.5-2%) vs the -2% it seems to like to be at. I upped the base to 22* and noticed that the total timing number didnt change to maintain the target but the TPS value was down to 0% or 0.5% and then as soon as I hit the AC it would go back to 2%. When the AC engages I have seen a momentary spike to 31* (meaning full range) to maintain idle or actually idle up for a second.

I am not sure if I have out of date labels or not but knowing specifically what the AC is would be very beneficial as well. I set all 9 Idle RPM vs Coolant the same for the time being, and the 14 individual Target Idle tables to the same value as my warm idle.

I experiemented with a stock cam car on 900s and 2150s, an S2 car on 900s, I'll have a stock injector car with S2s back tomorrow to make the changes to, and I have a customer in Vegas that I will send the map to and see if it fixes his issue. The S2 cars started out exactly as described in the first post though, idle at 1100 or so and as soon as you turn anything on using the AC it would drop to 400. That problem is now gone. The only side effect I have seen is if the range is too high for the car you will get the idle bounce like a Non-DBW car does with idle target incorrect for the BISS setting. Lowering the allowed timing till it goes away seems to keep it at bay.

Aaron

 

Also, I rescaled the RPM axis but that seemed to do nothing. I am not 100% sure its the accurate measurement but its definitely close enough and the right way round to make sure the adjustments are correct. If it has enough timing correction it might be hard to get it over a 200rpm error unless things are REALLY out of whack.

Not sure why it didnt dawn on me earlier but I have one or 2 cars with some "interesting" idle MIVEC that I had backwards between what the intake should have been and the exhaust. That wasnt making things easier but its definitely sorted now.

 

Did these idle compensation tables get pulled from the 55570005 xml?

I finally downgraded to a 2010 tephra rom on my 2011 and I don't have them listed and looked at goldenevo and they appear to be missing...

 

Those are from a 2008 0015 ROM. I would call it upgrading to a 2010 Tephra ROM but thats me.

 

Yes, it's definitely an upgrade!

I have these maps listed for 2011 ROM's anyone have them for the 55570005/6? Rich?