EvolutionM - Mitsubishi Lancer and Lancer Evolution Community

Notices

A bunch of load calculation related maps

   
Old Apr 28, 2014 | 12:24 PM
Share
  #46  
nonschlont's Avatar
nonschlont
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,760
Likes: 2
From: Ca
Originally Posted by itzwolf
Should be the following:

Code:
  <table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #1 (0xC728 -> 0xC7B4)" category="Misc" address="1a72e" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
  <table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #2 (0x0056 -> 0x0650)" category="Misc" address="1a730" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
  <table name="TPS Liftoff Max Load patch" category="Misc" address="546ce" type="1D" scaling="Load"/>
Thanks bud!! looks good.
Reply
0
Old Apr 28, 2014 | 12:44 PM
Share
  #47  
rrkpitt15's Avatar
rrkpitt15
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
From: PA
Originally Posted by itzwolf
I'm pretty sure the value I posted is correct I went through the ROM he uses and matched things up for 55570005, 59580004, and just now 56890013.

I should have done that the first time.
Alright thanks man.
Reply
0
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 03:41 AM
Share
  #48  
tephra's Avatar
tephra
Thread Starter
EvoM Guru
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,486
Likes: 67
From: Melbourne, Australia
another one i've been sitting on:

53040010:
Code:
<table name="3xMAP tables use actual MAP, not averaged 0xC780 -> 0xC6D6" category="Misc" address="62a68" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
Basically modifies the MAP AXIS lookup for the 3xMAP tables to use "current" MAP, not time averaged one.. i dont have a graph to show you the difference, but it equates to about 0.1 second shift during spool up..

I feel like my car drives better with this... But you will notice (if your running of MAP for Load) that your IPW will become quite jumpy, AFR's dont seem to change much..

Looking forwards to the feedback!
Reply
0
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:45 AM
Share
  #49  
RS200Z's Avatar
RS200Z
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 150
Likes: 0
From: Singapore
Originally Posted by tephra
i think the stock value (converted from baro -> raw -> load) is like 29... which means if you left alone you would never permit the code to detect increases or decreases of TPS.

I've set mine to 200... so that its disabled ABOVE 200 load...
Hi David, is 200 sort of the sweet spot? Am trying to understand how to fine tune this value. I reckon the boost you are running and turbo size will determine this figure.
Maybe you can also help explain what problems (if any) does it bring if it is not detecting increases or decreases of TPS?
Last edited by RS200Z; Apr 29, 2014 at 06:54 AM.
Reply
0
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:18 AM
Share
  #50  
tephra's Avatar
tephra
Thread Starter
EvoM Guru
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,486
Likes: 67
From: Melbourne, Australia
200 is just a number i chose..

basically you want to pick a number where you dont want the 5% load reduction that occurs when you reduce TPS by the tiniest of amounts.

5% at 11.5 AFR results in above 12 AFR.. which is dangerous..

You could easily go with 150 or 250, it just depends on when you want the stock system to deactivate...

If you make the value to small, then the only thing that will happen is your ECU WONT pull 5% of load out when you take you foot off the pedal.. so you will run a bit too rich.. big woop
Reply
0
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:28 AM
Share
  #51  
chetrickerman's Avatar
chetrickerman
Evolved Member
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 575
Likes: 1
From: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted by itzwolf
59580004:

Again stock value changed so confirmation needs done before attempting these patches.

Patch #1 Stock value changed from C6DC -> C734
Patch #2 Stock value matches.
Max Load patch data matches as "29"

Code:
  <table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #1 (0xC734 -> 0xC7C0)" category="Misc" address="18866" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
  <table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #2 (0x0056 -> 0x0650)" category="Misc" address="18868" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
  <table name="TPS Liftoff Max Load patch" category="Misc" address="546d8" type="1D" scaling="Load"/>
The first 2 tables I have 0xF000 and 0x6004
Reply
0
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:32 AM
Share
  #52  
itzwolf's Avatar
itzwolf
Evolved Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,193
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Originally Posted by chetrickerman
The first 2 tables I have 0xF000 and 0x6004
Sorry typo in post... I do this on my tuning laptop then type on my work computer... Just verified my XML and here are the proper addresses:

Code:
  <table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #1 (0xC734 -> 0xC7C0)" category="Misc" address="1a866" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
  <table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #2 (0x0056 -> 0x0650)" category="Misc" address="1a868" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
  <table name="TPS Liftoff Max Load patch" category="Misc" address="546d8" type="1D" scaling="Load"/>
Reply
0
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:43 AM
Share
  #53  
chetrickerman's Avatar
chetrickerman
Evolved Member
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 575
Likes: 1
From: Colorado Springs
Perfect
Reply
0
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:08 AM
Share
  #54  
tephra's Avatar
tephra
Thread Starter
EvoM Guru
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,486
Likes: 67
From: Melbourne, Australia
Here is a good example of the tps decreasing thing..

Check the right hand side, see how the ipw "smooths" out, when custom_log_2 goes spastic.. thats basically detecting tps decreasing.

in addition to the 5% thing, these maps (post #1):
Load Increase/Decrease threshold
Load Increase/Decrease divider (ie 1 is biggest)
Load Increase/Decrease multiplier (ie 1 is smallest) #1
Load Increase/Decrease multiplier (ie 1 is smallest) #2

control how much load is added/removed in steady state, steady state DOESN'T apply when TPS is decreasing, only when it's increasing or not doing either...

Formula is something like Final Load = New Load + ((New Load - Old Load) * (multiplier / divider) / 50)..

It also doesn't help that I am running the Direct MAP patch (so my MAP signal isn't being averaged at all)

All in all, the stock ECU is a bit retarded when it comes to calculating load...
Attached Thumbnails A bunch of load calculation related maps-capture.png  
Reply
0
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 09:18 AM
Share
  #55  
chetrickerman's Avatar
chetrickerman
Evolved Member
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 575
Likes: 1
From: Colorado Springs
5268
Code:
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #1 (0xC6E4 -> 0xC76E)" category="Misc" address="1814E" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #2 (0x0056 -> 0x0650)" category="Misc" address="18150" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Max Load patch" category="Misc" address="54696" type="1D" scaling="Load"/>

<table name="3xMAP tables use actual MAP, not averaged 0xC788 -> 0xC6DE" category="Misc" address="62a2A" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
5801
Code:
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #1 (0xC730 -> 0xC7BC)" category="Misc" address="1A762" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #2 (0x0056 -> 0x0650)" category="Misc" address="1A764" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Max Load patch" category="Misc" address="546D8" type="1D" scaling="Load"/>
Tephra needs to verify everything in these tables, so dont use them until he gives the Ok.
Last edited by chetrickerman; Apr 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM.
Reply
0
Old Apr 29, 2014 | 12:13 PM
Share
  #56  
itzwolf's Avatar
itzwolf
Evolved Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,193
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Originally Posted by chetrickerman
5268
Code:
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #1 (0xC6E4 -> 0xC770)" category="Misc" address="1814E" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #2 (0x0056 -> 0x0650)" category="Misc" address="18150" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Max Load patch" category="Misc" address="54696" type="1D" scaling="Load"/>

<table name="3xMAP tables use actual MAP, not averaged 0xC788 -> 0xC6DE" category="Misc" address="62a2A" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
5801
Code:
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #1 (0xC730 -> 0xC7BC)" category="Misc" address="1A762" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #2 (0x0056 -> 0x0650)" category="Misc" address="1A764" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Max Load patch" category="Misc" address="546D8" type="1D" scaling="Load"/>
Tephra needs to verify everything in these tables, so dont use them until he gives the Ok.
5268 there are 2 bases so to cover them both...

52680015-22:

Code:
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #1 (0xC6E4 -> 0xC76E)" category="Misc" address="1814E" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #2 (0x0056 -> 0x0650)" category="Misc" address="18150" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Max Load patch" category="Misc" address="54696" type="1D" scaling="Load"/>
52680024:

Code:
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #1 (0xC6E4 -> 0xC770)" category="Misc" address="1816E" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Baro to Load patch #2 (0x0056 -> 0x0650)" category="Misc" address="18170" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
<table name="TPS Liftoff Max Load patch" category="Misc" address="546a8" type="1D" scaling="Load"/>
58010005 =
Reply
0
Old Apr 30, 2014 | 08:09 AM
Share
  #57  
rrkpitt15's Avatar
rrkpitt15
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
From: PA
Originally Posted by Tephra
another one i've been sitting on:

53040010:
Code:
<table name="3xMAP tables use actual MAP, not averaged 0xC780 -> 0xC6D6" category="Misc" address="62a68" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
Basically modifies the MAP AXIS lookup for the 3xMAP tables to use "current" MAP, not time averaged one.. i dont have a graph to show you the difference, but it equates to about 0.1 second shift during spool up..

I feel like my car drives better with this... But you will notice (if your running of MAP for Load) that your IPW will become quite jumpy, AFR's dont seem to change much..

Looking forwards to the feedback!
Could anyone find the definitions for 55570005?
Last edited by rrkpitt15; Apr 30, 2014 at 08:11 AM.
Reply
0
Old May 1, 2014 | 08:29 AM
Share
  #58  
chetrickerman's Avatar
chetrickerman
Evolved Member
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 575
Likes: 1
From: Colorado Springs
Tephra, could you verify this table plz?

52680015
Code:
<table name="3xMAP tables use actual MAP, not averaged 0xC788 -> 0xC6DE" category="Misc" address="62a2A" type="1D" scaling="Hex16"/>
Reply
0
Old May 3, 2014 | 01:53 AM
Share
  #59  
tephra's Avatar
tephra
Thread Starter
EvoM Guru
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 9,486
Likes: 67
From: Melbourne, Australia
^ looks right to me!

tested in 52680022 ROM and loaded it up in IDA to confirm..
Reply
0
Old May 3, 2014 | 02:49 AM
Share
  #60  
chetrickerman's Avatar
chetrickerman
Evolved Member
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 575
Likes: 1
From: Colorado Springs
Thank you sir!
Reply
0

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Advanced Search

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:55 AM.