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Old Apr 4, 2010, 02:18 PM
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You lost all that power going to a 3 port??? Did you tune the 3 port or what?
Old Apr 4, 2010, 02:43 PM
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We can't really help you unless you post up some logs. I would recommend you to post a log when you had your MBC and a log with your 3-Port. By the way, how are you logging boost? With a MAP sensor, or a boost gauge?
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Sorry I didnt post any logs.....but I figured out the issue, since the 3port hits sooner, the load vs RPM tables are all different now. With the MBC I would hit 120 load at 3300 rpm, now with the 3 port I hit 160 load at the same rpm, now my tune is shifted and at all points the car is both richer and there is less timing meaning less power right...Im adjusting it as we speak maybe I'll test it tomorrow.
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Well yes, if those blocks weren't tuned.

Do you have a boost plot or you tuning the BCS for load based control?
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Originally Posted by project_skyline
Well yes, if those blocks weren't tuned.

Do you have a boost plot or you tuning the BCS for load based control?
They were tuned they just had a little less timing, im going to use load based boost control...I'll post up a screenshot of the log.

Cwill taught me how to tune a little bit so, I'll try to make adjustments to the Timing and fuel map myself see where I can get it to

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Old Apr 5, 2010, 08:52 AM
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Here's the log, the car was heatsoaked so it started to knock a little(2 counts) at redline, that was my 8th pull in a row logging to adjust the WGDC though.

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Ok so here are my Load settings with a log, how do I get it to hit the load and boost from above? (330 load all around and 27-28psi till redline) on the log above the TBEC table was zeroed out and my load settings were different.




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Old Apr 6, 2010, 04:23 AM
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Just post up the EvoScan log .csv file. You have too many parameters enabled in the Data Graphing, which makes it hard to make out important data that we need to see to help you. I must say with no offense that your way of tuning boost is quite weird.
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no good logs lol...

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Old Apr 6, 2010, 04:13 PM
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Any quick help I can get is fine, I'm trying to hit the track tomorrow to see how the car is running, can i just leave the TBEC zeroed out, I know its not the right way to do it but im kinda confused on the whole load thing. Thanks guys
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Originally Posted by aka.ralliart15
Haha no offense taken, im just trying to learn as much as I can and I appreciate you guys helping me. Here are some logs.

Here are the MBC log, 3port without any TBEC and the 3port log with the current settings above.

You are logging too many parameters that are not needed thus slowing down the EvoScan logger. Just only log the following parameters, and place it in the following order to make it easier on you to tune; Throttle Position, Engine RPM, Load, OMNI, Timing Advanced, Knock Sum, Wastegate Duty Cycle, Load Error (optional), WGDC Correction (optional), and External Wideband (if you have one). The 'optional' parameters don't have to be logged until you are adjusting the Boost Desired Engine Load(BDEL). As for the logs you have provided, they are pretty useless since you did not log WGDC and I have no way of knowing what WGDC% you are running at certain boost pressure on a particular RPM.

Originally Posted by aka.ralliart15
Any quick help I can get is fine, I'm trying to hit the track tomorrow to see how the car is running, can i just leave the TBEC zeroed out, I know its not the right way to do it but im kinda confused on the whole load thing. Thanks guys
It is not really recommended to run with TBEC zeroed out, but if you must - you can. I would just recommend doing a couple of logs before hand, while going through the gears. [ie. Log WOT: 1st to 2nd to 3rd to 4th(if possible) and see if you are overboosting]

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Old Apr 7, 2010, 06:59 AM
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Will do thanks.
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Originally Posted by aka.ralliart15
Will do thanks.
It's been a month how did you tune come along?
Old Apr 27, 2010, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DBallz
It's been a month how did you tune come along?
My car has been in Miami for that month now, I got a Tripple Disk installed and im getting the car soon because I've been busy and unable to pick it up. As of right now I need to make a log with WGDC which I havent done, I'll post it up in a couple days. Thanks for checking back bro, I appreciate it
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