Im sorry, I mod my car to make it fast. I dont spend thousands to make minimal power gains. So that is why I wont go to you. My evo made 355 on a mustang. 11.80 in the 1/4. Car ran PERFECT. Tuned by Scott at TTP on a MUSTANG dyno. I was EXTREMELY happy. I was SIMPLY STATING YOUR TOO CONSERVATIVE. and NOW ITS OBVIOUS!

I tell people to go to The Shop because they back up everything they do, and have dont let people down. Not saying you have, or you let people down, besides the low power. I went down there with my 35R on a stock fmic. Junior left it VERY safe and it still made over 400whp. My a/f was at 11.1 most of the way across. Verrry little timing. We both obviously knew with the stock fmic it wouldnt be the best thing to make power. Now that I have a big fmic, its game on!

The evo 9 is an MR. He is from NH. White car. Red head kid. I am going with what he told me. He is now going to The Shop for a retune to make some actual POWER. He may not have 1000cc, but I was just told he did.

The unfortunate thing is... Scott (the owner of Ballistic Motorsports) and I are friends, and your tuning is the only thing we disagree on. He backs you up 100%. I am not calling you a bad tuner... But when I beat a 2.7 stroker 35R sti with Meth at 28 PSI with my stock turbo bolt on evo 9 with NO meth from a 40 roll, we realized that...DAMN you are too safe!!!

 

Im not sure what you mean by this post.
I will say that it helps when you KNOW the limits on a certain platform. It allows you to have a nice balance of power and reliability.
BTW the stock red line is 7600...

 

My favorite part of this post. As I said, if i wanted a conservative car, i'd keep it stock. I want a fast car, so I mod. If I go as far as getting my car tuned, its not for better gas mileage. Its for POWER

 

those are great gains regardless of the other BS in this thread.
Owner should be very happy and is conservative.
Let him enjoy it

 

He is running a stock fuel pump, oh well, anything over300whp is fun

 

Thanks!

Yea, this winter I'll be adding about 4psi to it, I'm going to stretch her as well.. Nothing too drastic, just something to put me around 250-275whp.. It's funny, when I first got the bike, I was scared of the power, now it's just not enough.

- Chris

 

First of all, I have NEVER tuned a 2.7 stroker Evo on Meth, so your information, again, is completely wrong. I have told you this before in another thread where you stated that.. Somebody is either lying to you, or you are making things up, plain and simple.

Second, the person you are talking about is Mike Clancy, he specified to me not to push the limits of the car. The car had stock head studs in it, and I was not willing to push it much more past 25psi on pump with the Red. I just called him in regards to this post, and he has no idea what you are talking about, he's happy with the way the car runs.

Regardless, if I'm going to be known as a conservative tuner, I'll take that as a compliment, regardless of what you personally think of it of our tuning capabilities. Matt, I don't know you from a hole in the wall, but there is no reason to drag EFI's name through the dirt because of our "conservative" tuning, really, move on.

Also, just as a side note, our Evo9 MR, has been raced the last 2 years on the stock engine, making 395whp. The only thing we have ever replaced on the car is a clutch and transmission. We recently upgraded to an FP Green, which has been treating us very well and helped carry the power up top. So for our "Conservative" tuning, this car is doing very well, always finishing top 3 at every event it goes to.

Junior - I have no problems with you, never have. I do not chase the Evo business, it comes to us, we aren't even a vendor on this forum. I know your capabilities with Evo's, and I am not going to sit here and debate with you who is the better tuner, because those are conversations we do not involve ourselves in. I'm on here defending my company as a whole, and if there are rumors being said about us, I want to make sure they are true and if not, they I will be there to argue with factual evidence, nothing more.



- Chris

 

I'm in my 30's and refuse to deal with shady *** shops who hire kids to wrench on cars and then steal them later.

I also refuse to bring my car to a shop that will knowingly set my car up for failure, only to "earn" more business from me for a built motor job.

I have brought several cars to Chris at EFI. I have physically been in my wifes 400+awhp STi while it was being tuned where Chris told me that he was uncomfortable in how much I wanted to push the car. HE GAVE ME THE OPTION before executing more boost, but basically said that something bad can happen past this point.

Where in the world will you find a more honest guy than that? Most "shops" could give a **** less about the customer and their money, families, jobs, and lives, but I can honestly say Chris does. If it's to a fault, then I think that's a great fault to have.

I have also seen customers come to Chris from OTHER shops where their car made 550whp, at Chris's he re-tuned to say "440whp", and the car was much faster and smoother than before.

For my EVO X, I will be on a stock motor, with a very simple setup. I will report back here with my trap speeds from my "ultra conservative" EFI Logics tune and we'll re-start this conversation.

- Louis

 

BTW, I just wanted to add on that I am not directing my opinions toward any other shop other than EFI Logics. I have not personally dealt with other local shops, but I know people who have... and my statements are based on their experiences, not my own (I am smart enough to never go there in the first place).

 

^I also dont go to Shady shops. Ive had plenty of high hp cars (evo's STis, supras, skyline, cobras), and I only go to shops to treat me right. I have never been to XX tuning, or EFI. I was told he tunes to conservative and that was my reason not to go. Which I am trying to say.


It was Brian Bourques STI. World ONE built motor. Not stroker. I can post the video of me walking all over him in my STOCK TURBO TTP tuned car if you'd like. Made 441 on your dyno. I checked the charts. I was told some bull**** story's i guess, But either way, I can show you me walking him. He is also happy with the tune, but all of us up here just thought it would be...quicker...

And Mike is happy with the tune. But he said he isnt happy with the power..And I doubt you called him.. because all his friends talk about is how the car doesnt move like it should. Maybe he is freaked out that you may get mad at him or what ever. I duno, he is new to cars.


LASTLY. Im not trying to "drag your name into the dirt". I was clearly stating, myself, and others, modify to make power, not stock turbo times. When I see dyno numbers, I go to the track to back up the number.

Ill be going to ESP to see Mike. We will be doing a pull or 2 to see what my car makes. He seems to think its only going to make low numbers because their dyno reads HORRIBLY low. We will see.

 

As I quote myself and I want to make this clear


I did/am NOT calling you a bad tuner by any means. I simply stated that I WAS TOLD you tune conservative. and THAT IS WHY I go to the shop. Nothing was said to put you down, or your tuning. I think your taking it wrong.

 

I do have a walboro 255 fuel pump i installed myself and forgot to tell chris when he asked me what i did to my car. I was just excited to get my first tune on my new car and forget. Chris is a verry cool guy and i appreciat the work he did on my car and look foreword to doing some more bussiness with him. I said i might go to the shop but i think i'm going to continue going to chris.
What u said makes a lot of sense so when i do more work to my evo which is soon i'll hit u up for another tune.

 

nice numbers

 

Yeah I understand I get the same way when I get tuned. I'm 31 and for me it feels like 5 y/o and it's Christmas morning and shaking those boxes to see what I got as for your choice of trying another shop. Anyone who has heavily modded any car will tell you not to bounce around to different places working on your car. If you feel comfortable with Chris and EFI stay there. Like I said before I have heard nothing but great things about them Good job next thing for you should be cams and meth

 

Excellent advice.

I feel the same way about the dyno. Start off on one, and try and continue to use the same dyno at all times. Aside from trap speeds, it's the only true indicator of the progress you make in your build(s).

- Louis