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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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the the OP, do you have a comparison with this set up compared to your old t3 set up?
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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the the OP, do you have a comparison with this set up compared to your old t3 set up?
I hear people saying that the setup will choke up top on high boost but at what power level/boost? 40psi? over 700whp? It doesn't concern me because it's a street car and I'm only concerned with pump gas. BUT, this setup kills my old t3 hta setup in spool and response. No comparison. As soon as I left off to shift and get back on it there is instant boost once I'm back on the gas. I'm also making 10-15 more ft lb of tq at the wheels than comparable t3 setups. Overall I'm very happy. I'm swapping to a hta3586 soon. I'll post results when done.

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by binh
t4 gt3582r w 1.06 ar= $1100 new
full race t4 manifold 2nd hand and basically new from cbrd= $800
two 44mm wastegates= $700

not much more than a standard t3 setup besides having to buy an extra wastegate....
And you can save even more by using 2 38mm gates, which barely cost more than a single 44mm.

We just got home from the dyno with my friend's DSM that has a 2.0 S362 twin scroll T3 setup, full boost around 5k, 704.5whp at 38psi on E70 winter blend.

Twin scroll is where it's at
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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weight? Do you have the red MR with the forward facing kit? Beautiful car man! i think we saw each other at Etown on a Friday night, couple of weeks back...
Juans car weighed around 3350 when it trapped 135mph on the street tires.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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These prices are very low and not accurate to what someone will pay. A used manifold and a nowhere near realistic price on a 35R plus a super low price on the w/g's will make it seem cheap. Look at what full-race charges and you will see TS is not even comparable to a single scroll kit. ~$5855 for a 35R kit with no dump tubes and no intake. Add that up and you are in the $6000+ range easy. The single scroll 35R kit is $3850. Those are retail prices so the best for comparison purposes.

Originally Posted by binh
t4 gt3582r w 1.06 ar= $1100 new
full race t4 manifold 2nd hand and basically new from cbrd= $800
two 44mm wastegates= $700

not much more than a standard t3 setup besides having to buy an extra wastegate....
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by binh
this setup kills my old t3 hta setup in spool and response. No comparison. As soon as I left off to shift and get back on it there is instant boost once I'm back on the gas.


before throwing the HTA in, ask evodan about the porting mods I had him do to the twinscroll hta86 setup, his results are very impressive.

Originally Posted by Steve93Talon
And you can save even more by using 2 38mm gates, which barely cost more than a single 44mm.Twin scroll is where it's at

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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff
Full-Race twinscroll header + tial MVS wg's + Borgwarner Twinscroll turbo will crusssh singlescroll 35Rs, for less $$
Well if that is the case why is the kit you talk about ~$1300 more than your own single scroll 35R kit? You used the worst single scroll 35R dyno ever to compare to your twin scroll kit and barely got any benefits. If the twin scroll kit is less $ why is it so much more on your website? Must be an error on the site.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Ohh and my single scroll crap SFP headered Talon made 50+ more AWHP at the same boost with hks 272 cams and 2.5in IC pipes with old *** BR race IC (2-216) and an SC6152E with 90+ more tq. E cover journal bearing turbo. Granted it was a 2.4 but the results are insanely different and I had "inferior" everything. Soon the same setup will be redynoed with a single scroll 6262dbb and well see how the TS BW compares.

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Old Nov 25, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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great numbers for straight pump gas. i love the twinscroll setups
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by batty200
Ohh and my single scroll crap SFP headered Talon made 50+ more AWHP at the same boost with hks 272 cams and 2.5in IC pipes with old *** BR race IC (2-216) and an SC6152E with 90+ more tq. E cover journal bearing turbo. Granted it was a 2.4 but the results are insanely different and I had "inferior" everything. Soon the same setup will be redynoed with a single scroll 6262dbb and well see how the TS BW compares.

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apples to apples bud...2.4 vs 2.0?

lets see the dyno...pumpgas? dynojet or mustang? correction factor? whos dyno? at what rpm did it make 20psi? etc etc....you get my point
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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I will get the dyno on here, but we all know that tq is determined by by displacement and power is det by the head. It was an awd dynojet just like turbotrix dyno.
Originally Posted by binh
apples to apples bud...2.4 vs 2.0?

lets see the dyno...pumpgas? dynojet or mustang? correction factor? whos dyno? at what rpm did it make 20psi? etc etc....you get my point
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Here is my dyno plot. The one is at 23psi pumpgas. Thats all the boost I will run on pump without knock control on this car. It had a Haltech at the time (4-2005) The other two runs are at 30 and 31psi where the turbo was just done. It would peak to approx 32-33psi and fall right off to 31psi. The E cover was prob the restriction. The higer power graphs were in 3rd so thats why the spool seems worse but I wasnt going to risk killing the car with 4th gear pulls all day. AWD dynojet 248c.
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