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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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What WGA was used? holding 29psi @7500rpm is pretty impressive!
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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It's the regular FP high pressure one.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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Nice work Dave! awesome numbers, and great job on the SD. I just finished an SD car today myself.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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David, I'm not sure what map you are referring to?

Originally Posted by davidbuschur
BTW, in the XML file you sent me Rich the Idle control look up table is incorrect. I wanted to modify it but didn't want to mess with that XML file you sent me. Can you view that table in your rom?
Hmmm...I'm home now and looking at my ROM in EcuFlash and I'm not sure what table you are talking about. I don't see any idle tables grayed out? Is it supposed to be under "Idle" or "ISCV Control"?

Here's a screen shot of what I see in EcuFlash--

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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That is very interesting. I just opened your rom using the XML file you sent and I have it in mine but it is grey and is defined wrong, your screen shot doesn't even show it as a parameter.

The last item under the Idle is "Idle Stepper Look Up Table" and it is not even listed on yours.

I just noticed something else. Under your ISCV Control, you have multiple maps. In mine I only have two options under that. The two options I have are also defined incorrectly......

Can you send me the XML file from the rom you put the screen shot up of? I'll try to load it again and make sure some of this isn't on my end. You for sure do not have the Idle Stepper Look up Table there though from what I see.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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hmm David i just wanted to ask you both you and TTP tuned an SD car this week, TTP made 20 more hp than u guys did, what do u think is missing on the car u tuned to make the extra 20?
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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nomad4g63, I am guessing you are trying to start problems. So without falling for the trap I will just say our two dynos read differently by a large margin.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Nomad4g63
hmm David i just wanted to ask you both you and TTP tuned an SD car this week, TTP made 20 more hp than u guys did, what do u think is missing on the car u tuned to make the extra 20?
You cant compare numbers from different dynoes. 450 on Daves dyno is more power than 470 on TTP dyno.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
You cant compare numbers from different dynoes. 450 on Daves dyno is more power than 470 on TTP dyno.
i wish there was just 1 setting for all Mustang and DynoJet Dynos so that we could compare all cars on 1 setting.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
That is very interesting. I just opened your rom using the XML file you sent and I have it in mine but it is grey and is defined wrong, your screen shot doesn't even show it as a parameter.

The last item under the Idle is "Idle Stepper Look Up Table" and it is not even listed on yours.

I just noticed something else. Under your ISCV Control, you have multiple maps. In mine I only have two options under that. The two options I have are also defined incorrectly......

Can you send me the XML file from the rom you put the screen shot up of? I'll try to load it again and make sure some of this isn't on my end. You for sure do not have the Idle Stepper Look up Table there though from what I see.
Nice to watch one of the 4g63 masterminds growing.

As always, keep up the great work!!
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Sorry nomad4g63, I didn't know what you intentions were with the question. So much crap on the forums it is hard to tell.

I don't want to take this off topic and turn this into a dyno discussion so if I may just get a few comments in for "read only" and let it drop I'd appreciate it. I to wish the MD's all read the same like the Dynojets. They are too easily manipulated and even when not trying to manipulate them the smallest of settings and re-calibrations can really change things. This winter during testing of the intake manifolds I would have to over-rev my car past the RPM I wanted to stop the pull to get the dyno to stop. In other words if I was testing from 3,000 to 8,000 rpm I'd have to rev the car to nearly 9,000 rpm to have the dyno think it was 8,000. I noticed it was only on very high HP cars. I called MD, was told the dyno was simply not reading the rpm fast enough so a high hp car that accelerated very quickly would cause this issue and not a slower car. So we changed a bunch of settings in the dyno and it got the RPM nearly perfect, still a little over run but not much. Problem was, after 2-23-09 when I did that everything before it became useless data now. It sucks because I can't compare all my old work. The graphs moved nearly 500 rpm to the right.

In short, sorry for the ramble, I wish they were more standardized too. Some of the numbers I see people make on MD's are laughable at best, they would be completely impossible to make here.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Thanks 4kinboost, sometimes it takes me awhile to come around but when I do..........
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
You cant compare numbers from different dynoes. 450 on Daves dyno is more power than 470 on TTP dyno.
Not starting anything,,,,

But since project white@450hp traps almost the same as Ryu@550hp, I think this is an understatement.

Sorry to drift off-topic.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:59 AM
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interesting read..sounds like a bad *** car...nice to see Dave getting into SD

NOTE: DROP THE DYNO NUMBERS TALK...Dave made his point...anyone that wishes to push it will end up with an infraction
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Nomad4g63
i wish there was just 1 setting for all Mustang and DynoJet Dynos so that we could compare all cars on 1 setting.
My car dyno'd exactly 15% less on BR's dyno when we were up there and My dynojet seems on par with the standard #'s.. so if comparing to a dynojet vs daves id start at minimum 15%..

Mike
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