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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Retuned for 2010

OK last year I got tuned and it was really needed. In the process I had to replace the Head-gasket and fix several boost leaks in the I/C Piping. I put down 292 WHP and 273 FT/LBS at 21 PSI. I went and got tuned today and found out I had several knock counts my A/F was completely whacked I would hit 11.3 A/F at 2 psi and the go to 13.5 and back to 11.5 and so on till I get to full boost then it would be where it needed. I was pulling timing with at that, I should have bought stock in NGK's because I was eating them up.
But they got that fixed and got me where I needed and raised the boost to 24PSI and I put down 307.2 WHP and 270.6 WTQ and was told I am maxed until I go with water/meth injection and or a larger turbo. Here is the dyno print out from today. The only real new mod was the ETS FMIC with the 3" UICP Option and the 3.5 core.

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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Good numbers, but something is killing your HP as it approaches 7k. Stock 9.8 hotside? Full exhaust?
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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Good numbers, but something is killing your HP as it approaches 7k. Stock 9.8 hotside? Full exhaust?
If you look at my mods in Members rides you will see everything. I also dont have the 9.8 the 05+ has the 10.5 03-04 had 9.8 hotsides the 06 got a larger cold side as well with the 10.5 hotside. The cams I have are what make my power come in mid to top end due to the size.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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have you ever tried using VDR? interested to see what your numbers are on there...
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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have you ever tried using VDR? interested to see what your numbers are on there...
Whats VDR?
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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was told I am maxed until I go with water/meth injection and or a larger turbo
Don't listen to that for a second. We have one car at 400+ whp and a few quickly approaching it. I wouldn't recommend meth/water injection to my worst enemy, since we have good tuning capabilities now. Stock turbo is fine for much more than that. Even on 93, people make 340 or so on a mustang dyno, which reads a lot lower than a dynodynamics dyno.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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Virtual Dyno Room... look it up on evom...

as for the water/meth statement... that is true, theres no need for that really... dangerous...
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by neonglh
Don't listen to that for a second. We have one car at 400+ whp and a few quickly approaching it. I wouldn't recommend meth/water injection to my worst enemy, since we have good tuning capabilities now. Stock turbo is fine for much more than that. Even on 93, people make 340 or so on a mustang dyno, which reads a lot lower than a dynodynamics dyno.
I have not seen many VIII's with that much HP on the Stock Turbo.

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Virtual Dyno Room... look it up on evom...

as for the water/meth statement... that is true, theres no need for that really... dangerous...
I feel the same way about the Meth Injection real dangerous and not worth it to me. If anything I might do a Cryo2 Kit and just spray the intercooler with CO2 instead to drop intake temps down.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:56 AM
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sup man.
who tuned you again?
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Broham
sup man.
who tuned you again?
Ptuning.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BEISSEN
If you look at my mods in Members rides you will see everything. I also dont have the 9.8 the 05+ has the 10.5 03-04 had 9.8 hotsides the 06 got a larger cold side as well with the 10.5 hotside. The cams I have are what make my power come in mid to top end due to the size.
+1, The 05's had the 10.5 hotside stock.

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Don't listen to that for a second. We have one car at 400+ whp and a few quickly approaching it. I wouldn't recommend meth/water injection to my worst enemy, since we have good tuning capabilities now. Stock turbo is fine for much more than that. Even on 93, people make 340 or so on a mustang dyno, which reads a lot lower than a dynodynamics dyno.
hahah lots of misinfo there man! Dyno dynamics are the lowest of the low (with 1.0CF and no shootout mode!). The most I've seen a stock turbo make on a DD on pump gas is 326whp. Even if you were able to push it, have good gas, good luck, etc, someone might be able to hit 340. Stock turbos on E85 or alky injection (no it's not that bad when setup properly! don't be silly!), make 350-380whp.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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dyno dynamics is the lowest possible even below a mustang dyno.

beissen, good job going to ptuning man.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Broham
dyno dynamics is the lowest possible even below a mustang dyno.

beissen, good job going to ptuning man.
thanks,Also seems like you got a good amout of your installed. Did you do it or pay a shop?
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by scheides
hahah lots of misinfo there man! Dyno dynamics are the lowest of the low (with 1.0CF and no shootout mode!). The most I've seen a stock turbo make on a DD on pump gas is 326whp. Even if you were able to push it, have good gas, good luck, etc, someone might be able to hit 340. Stock turbos on E85 or alky injection (no it's not that bad when setup properly! don't be silly!), make 350-380whp.
First of all, I have a hard time beleiving that a dyno dynamics would read lower than our mustang dyno, either STM or Buschur. What does a bone stock Evo put down on that dyno?

Second, look at some of the builds out of STM. Last year I made 358/358 on their Mustang all summer, on my daily driver, without E85. This year, Shawna is making 420/385 on her daily driver, that she puts LOTS AND LOTS of miles on. AWDDYNO is making well over 400 ft/lb on his car with stock cams and stock turbo still. It's not difficult to do these days.

Lastly, Meth is dangerous, and not needed. If meth was the way to go, you would see the record holders use it, but ryu is the only that that does. Meth is helpful, but not needed, E85 is safer, no questions about it.

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dyno dynamics is the lowest possible even below a mustang dyno.

beissen, good job going to ptuning man.
I guess my above statement still remains I doubt that they read lower than our Mustang, but I could be wrong.

Either way, it's good that the car picked up 8 HP or whatever from last year, but I completely disagree with the diagnosing from the tuner that he needs Meth or a larger turbo to make more power.

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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by neonglh
First of all, I have a hard time beleiving that a dyno dynamics would read lower than our mustang dyno, either STM or Buschur. What does a bone stock Evo put down on that dyno?

Second, look at some of the builds out of STM. Last year I made 358/358 on their Mustang all summer, on my daily driver, without E85. This year, Shawna is making 420/385 on her daily driver, that she puts LOTS AND LOTS of miles on. AWDDYNO is making well over 400 ft/lb on his car with stock cams and stock turbo still. It's not difficult to do these days.

Lastly, Meth is dangerous, and not needed. If meth was the way to go, you would see the record holders use it, but ryu is the only that that does. Meth is helpful, but not needed, E85 is safer, no questions about it.



I guess my above statement still remains I doubt that they read lower than our Mustang, but I could be wrong.

Either way, it's good that the car picked up 8 HP or whatever from last year, but I completely disagree with the diagnosing from the tuner that he needs Meth or a larger turbo to make more power.

--mark
Look please if you want to turn this into a dyno queen thread go else where, the proof of a dyno is on the track but everyone knows all shops claim to have the lowest reading dyno to compete all I know is that the butt dyno tells me my car is alot faster and when I can pull a car on my friends Evo IX and he put more down but at the same place I know my car is faster now.
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