old fp green 424/414
hey Zeus, heres a guy i just did on the fp green on stock block and head.. he also has the hks cams im curious because his car takes racegas timing on the 98 oct shell vpower that he runs and he claims its 93oct us equiv? i find that hard to believe when it takes 18deg+ at redline. curious does your car take that mmuch also? this is a evo 7 tho.
he opted to keep torque low since stock block.
he opted to keep torque low since stock block.
What intercooler is this guy running? He may be running 93 octane U.S. pump equivalent but maybe he throws a can of octane booster in for safety's sake. Also what were the ambient temps? There may be a fudge factor as anything over 17* is right on the borderline. How much boost and what ambient temps and elevation?
What intercooler is this guy running? He may be running 93 octane U.S. pump equivalent but maybe he throws a can of octane booster in for safety's sake. Also what were the ambient temps? There may be a fudge factor as anything over 17* is right on the borderline. How much boost and what ambient temps and elevation?

Ambient temps on the above run were about 25C or 77F. Boost is on the graph above (around 25psi tapering to 21 at redline). Elevation here is about 580m or 1,900ft.
It's certainly freaky how much timing it's taking
What intercooler is this guy running? He may be running 93 octane U.S. pump equivalent but maybe he throws a can of octane booster in for safety's sake. Also what were the ambient temps? There may be a fudge factor as anything over 17* is right on the borderline. How much boost and what ambient temps and elevation?

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so i am running straight us 93 octane fuel, no octane boosters at all. i run 28psi. i cannot reveal timing or other log information. i posted both 90 degree heat runs and a colder run to show how temp can effect whp and torque. i am in manchester, nh usa which is no greater than 300 or so ft above sea level.
so i am running straight us 93 octane fuel, no octane boosters at all. i run 28psi. i cannot reveal timing or other log information. i posted both 90 degree heat runs and a colder run to show how temp can effect whp and torque. i am in manchester, nh usa which is no greater than 300 or so ft above sea level.
hi
so i am running straight us 93 octane fuel, no octane boosters at all. i run 28psi. i cannot reveal timing or other log information. i posted both 90 degree heat runs and a colder run to show how temp can effect whp and torque. i am in manchester, nh usa which is no greater than 300 or so ft above sea level.
so i am running straight us 93 octane fuel, no octane boosters at all. i run 28psi. i cannot reveal timing or other log information. i posted both 90 degree heat runs and a colder run to show how temp can effect whp and torque. i am in manchester, nh usa which is no greater than 300 or so ft above sea level.
We're just curious if the HKS 272 cams might be a common link to the engine taking such high levels of timing on pump gas
I am not really a doubter, zeus. I am just curious that's all! It is great to be able to run relatively high timing out the top on 93 with the old school Green. Congrats! Has the turbine housing been ported?
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Guess I shouldn't reveal data anymore either then since im making much more power and using much harder fuel to tune with. If everyone were like you, no one would get anywhere in the evo community. I like helping people, seems you dont care much. I even posted my 655WHP+ e85 maps for others to learn off of. Tuning isn't a secret, but you wouldn't know that, you're not a tuner!
We dont care about your tune, I can duplicate your tune with my eyes closed.. I was just asking help to see if these cams are all the same or not.
simple question "do hks cams allow a evo to take more timing then normal?" simple answer: yes or no?
your response: "i cant reveal that data" ---------------------------------- ok.
We dont care about your tune, I can duplicate your tune with my eyes closed.. I was just asking help to see if these cams are all the same or not.
simple question "do hks cams allow a evo to take more timing then normal?" simple answer: yes or no?
your response: "i cant reveal that data" ---------------------------------- ok.
i didnt ask for the timing map, and didnt expect to see it anyways. just wanted to know if your car was taking abnormal timing, but you wouldnt know since you dont know how to read the map i guess, so im sorry i will just post it in the Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain.
I just assumed you knew enough to answer my question.. if not i apologize for getting alittle rude.
I just assumed you knew enough to answer my question.. if not i apologize for getting alittle rude.
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i didnt ask for the timing map, and didnt expect to see it anyways. just wanted to know if your car was taking abnormal timing, but you wouldnt know since you dont know how to read the map i guess, so im sorry i will just post it in the Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain.
I just assumed you knew enough to answer my question.. if not i apologize for getting alittle rude.
I just assumed you knew enough to answer my question.. if not i apologize for getting alittle rude.


