i cant believe i missed this thread.

steven congrats man. im very happy for you. finally this car has made it. i cant wait to see it one day. good luck at the track. 2012 at E-Town and Island is going to be nothing but trouble from the few guys i spoke too. so when you go dont run it out until you feel you got the good pass.

 

it is in maryland. http://www.cecilcountydragway.com/ the track prep is probably no where as good as englishtown, but ya you will be allowed to run.. lol. englishtown is super strict lol.

 

A true back-to-back test would be rather interesting. I look at how much boost Steve is pushing (43PSI), I still see peak torque before 5,000RPM. I just do not see how nearly 700whp an be received unfavorably.

 

Thanks Dan! We'll meet up one day soon once the weather gets nicer outside. Yea I was figuring Ill get my launch figured out and then when Im comfortable with it, give it one solid run and then leave

I dunno man, as of right now like I mentioned Aaron is going to be modding my MIVEC gear since I have a 64 block. There is also more room to work with down low, but not until Aaron gets the car on a dyno in person. I'm more than happy with the way the car feels right now with everything considered. The way the car feels with the EF4 on S3's compared to my car with S2's and an FP Black is literally a half second difference in lagginess in 3rd. 1st and 2nd gear dont telegraph an inkling of a feeling of lag because theyre so short; they're essentially useless.

You don't typically see an FP Black setup with S3's, so to take a poop all over the EF4 just because it looks laggy when there arent many setups to compare mine to I think is unjustified, no? This isn't a daily driven car either. If I was DD'ing this, I'd have stuck with S2's for sure.

I agree, I wish I kind of kept my S2 cams to compare the Black and the EF4 directly before installing the S3's. The goal of this setup was ultimately geared a little bit more toward top end without any ultimate sacrifice for down low power. I have no complaints!

 

^ I forgot about the GSC S3 cam aspect of the equation. Ummm... I still love everything about the set up. By the way, do you have a Stage 3 or Stage 5 cylinder head?

 

Question.

I don't know if I missed it, but what compression ratio did you go with, and is there any headwork done?

Thanks!

 

S3's, fabbed big intake manifold, long runner tubular exhaust manifold. Those right there are a geared for upper mid/ top end power at the sacrifice of low end. If I went with a stock ported intake manifold like a MAP Rev 3 Id honestly be interested to see what would happen. I almost feel like my intake manifold might be overkill and hurting my low/midrange. However, I wanted maximum flow though to help keep from running out of breath up top. The power curve carries very nicely to my redline without dipping.

Motor is 10:1 and its a BR stage 3 head.

 

I'm liking the 2.4LR more and more.

 

Cecil can be a fun night. it's hillbilly heaven and a big mix of cars. If you are going on a Friday night watch out for deer. My evo was t-boned by a buck on the road the dragway is off of. Not how i planned my Friday night...

 

Between the intake/exhaust manifold, and cam choice i think it still looks 'decent' even in third, Someone mentioned not seeing an EF4 that spooled decent, i think Ruckus posted a graph of one that is hitting 200whp around 3500 in 3rd gear on their 2.4, which is very solid but it has normal spool/street friendly mods whereas almost everything about this car is aimed at topend performance.

Any way you have a comparison over the black you had on the car?
Do you have pics of your engine bay posted somewhere?

 

All those long nights finally paid off. I'm so happy it's finally all coming together like you wanted.

 

Also, the guys comparing this set up to a black, when Buschur initially built this car it had S2's and a ported stock exhaust manifold. The power was lacking in every which way possible. So when I put this back together with the S3's, ToxicFab manifold, and EF4 turbo, power as picked up EVERYWHERE. Not to mention the previous set up blew up in under 3k miles. Which was the most fantastic display of detonation I've ever seen. Anyway, I think once the MIVEC gear gets modded and Aaron gets it 100% dialed in, I don't for see an FP Black, ball bearing or not, being a better choice for a high HP stock frame set up.

 

Exactly! Yes I do have a dyno sheet from the Black setup. I don't even know if it would be a fair comparison and/or if it was a truly accurate measurement of the cars power, because the car honestly drove like I was riding in a 14 foot long piece of poop. It made some decent power. Ill see if I can find the sheet.






Im happy too man. So everyone knows, Eric ^ helped me from day 1 when the car blew up after I brought the car back home from Ohio, to taking it apart to figure out what went wrong, to putting it back together, to the car not starting from a blown ECU fuse, till the day it started again a few months back. He took the time to make sure every little detail was not overlooked. I learned a sh*t ton from him.

 

I know what you meant but to clarify, the car is 100% dialed as it sits I feel.

A dyno would be the best test of what is really going on vs VDR. The MIVEC will get us a few hundred RPM of spool but every little bit helps for sure. For the record we have made the same power and torque at 32psi on the Black (or nearly) on JohnnyTSI's car recently, 661/590@32psi I think (I'll look). That is why I am saying this needs to be on a dyno.

Steven,

I am very envious of how clean your engine bay is. I am going to have to spend extra time on mine this year when I put it back together.

Aaron

 

What head is on JohnnyTSI's car? Thats the only thing at this point that I can see being a restriction as to why Im making only a little more power but with a ton more boost. Was that a DBB Black??

Thanks for the compliments man I put a lot of time into keeping stuff looking purdy while keeping it simple.