VP gas a new gas (C85)
Apr 12, 2012, 06:39 AM
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VP gas a new gas (C85)
VP has a new gas out. C85 it's like E85 but 4% better. Is any one going to try this stuff out? If they do please put and over lay with it against E85. Here is what they said about it on a site I saw.
VP Racing Fuels has introduced C85 racing fuel, offering a significant performance gain over conventional E85 according to Jim Kelly, VP’s Director of Racing Fuel Sales. “Conventional E85 gained some popularity because it was cheap and made some power, but it has a significant downside,” said Kelly. “In addition to requiring a costly E85 carburetor and completely revamped and upgraded fuel system, E85 is corrosive and very inconsistent.”
“When you don’t know if you’re getting 60 percent ethanol, 80 percent ethanol or something else, it’s extremely difficult to tune,” Kelly continued. “Many engine builders have cited up to a two-jet swing in their tune from one batch of E85 to the next. By contrast, C85 is blended with the same degree of care and precision as every other VP fuel, with a consistent proportion of ethanol and every other component in every drum. It takes all the guesswork out of tuning.”
“With VP’s focus on power, we’ve engineered C85 to make up to 4 percent more power and torque than conventional E85,” Kelly added. “In addition to these performance gains, C85’s higher quality pure components make it superior to E85 in terms of cooling effect, resistance to detonation and we’ve added corrosion inhibitors to fight the issues presented by ethanol.”
C85 will work well in drag racing, oval track, off road, and virtually any other automotive racing application, in particular forced induction applications due to its lower vapor pressure. Tests of C85 indicate most applications will require richening up by 1 jet size, or 2-3 percent over current jetting.
Source:
VP Racing Fuel
812-878-2025
www.VPRacingFuels.com
VP Racing Fuels has introduced C85 racing fuel, offering a significant performance gain over conventional E85 according to Jim Kelly, VP’s Director of Racing Fuel Sales. “Conventional E85 gained some popularity because it was cheap and made some power, but it has a significant downside,” said Kelly. “In addition to requiring a costly E85 carburetor and completely revamped and upgraded fuel system, E85 is corrosive and very inconsistent.”
“When you don’t know if you’re getting 60 percent ethanol, 80 percent ethanol or something else, it’s extremely difficult to tune,” Kelly continued. “Many engine builders have cited up to a two-jet swing in their tune from one batch of E85 to the next. By contrast, C85 is blended with the same degree of care and precision as every other VP fuel, with a consistent proportion of ethanol and every other component in every drum. It takes all the guesswork out of tuning.”
“With VP’s focus on power, we’ve engineered C85 to make up to 4 percent more power and torque than conventional E85,” Kelly added. “In addition to these performance gains, C85’s higher quality pure components make it superior to E85 in terms of cooling effect, resistance to detonation and we’ve added corrosion inhibitors to fight the issues presented by ethanol.”
C85 will work well in drag racing, oval track, off road, and virtually any other automotive racing application, in particular forced induction applications due to its lower vapor pressure. Tests of C85 indicate most applications will require richening up by 1 jet size, or 2-3 percent over current jetting.
Source:
VP Racing Fuel
812-878-2025
www.VPRacingFuels.com
Apr 12, 2012, 07:46 AM
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81.05 for 5 gal? I just put 45 in my tank to fill up on e85. And on top of that only 4% more power and tq. That is not worth 6.78 a gallon for me I'm sorry. If I wanted 22/17 more hp/tq for myself I'd find a way to make it with adding something or pushing the tune more.
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Apr 12, 2012, 11:13 AM
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lmao, C85... ridiculous. make it .50cents more a gallon than E85 and i may consider it... if they deliver it free of charge and give me a reach around after every delivery.
C85 = pro teams. No average joes
C85 = pro teams. No average joes
Apr 12, 2012, 12:38 PM
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Ignite racing fuels makes racing fuel style ethanol. Never tried it though.
VP is clearly trying to get people to buy the fuel using the same old fear and mis-information tactics. E85 is not a corrosive, it is not highly inconsistent (At least in GA and NC). Shame on a big corporate like that for lying their *** off.
Don't get the cheap fuel that will do just fine for you, buy our more expensive then race fuel ethanol.
I think I'll pass.
VP is clearly trying to get people to buy the fuel using the same old fear and mis-information tactics. E85 is not a corrosive, it is not highly inconsistent (At least in GA and NC). Shame on a big corporate like that for lying their *** off.
Don't get the cheap fuel that will do just fine for you, buy our more expensive then race fuel ethanol.
I think I'll pass.
Apr 12, 2012, 01:06 PM
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Wha...
Isn't that about the same price as Q16?
At least Q16 has the advantage of being a gasoline and not needing 30% more of it to make the same power.
On the flip side, locally our Ethanol content does vary by a considerable amount, sometimes being as low as E50 and in one case, it was straight 91 octane and caused several blown motors before anybody caught on. Also, a lot of these E85 pumps are old diesel pumps with 30 years of junk in the tank that makes it's way into your fuel injectors, also having blown up numerous motors.
I see the point, but not at 3-4X the price of basically the same fuel you can get right out of the pump. If you can't run E98 straight in a competition class, buy E98 by the drum and mix it with 9 gallons of 100 octane unleaded to E85 levels, dump in a bottle of fuel lube and call it a day. Hell, add a fragrance and make it special...
http://www.manhattanoil.com/top-lube.php
It's still going to cost less then this stuff, around $5/gal.
Isn't that about the same price as Q16?
At least Q16 has the advantage of being a gasoline and not needing 30% more of it to make the same power.
On the flip side, locally our Ethanol content does vary by a considerable amount, sometimes being as low as E50 and in one case, it was straight 91 octane and caused several blown motors before anybody caught on. Also, a lot of these E85 pumps are old diesel pumps with 30 years of junk in the tank that makes it's way into your fuel injectors, also having blown up numerous motors.
I see the point, but not at 3-4X the price of basically the same fuel you can get right out of the pump. If you can't run E98 straight in a competition class, buy E98 by the drum and mix it with 9 gallons of 100 octane unleaded to E85 levels, dump in a bottle of fuel lube and call it a day. Hell, add a fragrance and make it special...
http://www.manhattanoil.com/top-lube.php
It's still going to cost less then this stuff, around $5/gal.
Last edited by 03whitegsr; Apr 12, 2012 at 01:11 PM.
Apr 12, 2012, 01:14 PM
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I think the market for that could be outside from USA.... In my case, I live in El Salvador, and I bought one month ago 5 gallons of VP Q16 in $140 dollars!!! That´s mean $28 per gallon. This is our reallity!!! Sucks! You have lucky with those price in E85, still that gas (C85) and VP Q16 is cheaper!
