Current set up
Built 2.0L Wiseco/MAP Ultimate rods
Headway Performance CNC'd head w/ stk sized valves
Kiggly Beehive/Ti retainers
Kelford 276HL cams 0/0
FP HTA 3076 T3 1.06 A/R
MILSPEC 65mm TB
AMS F1
MPFab twin scroll turbo kit
SD conversion tuned by me

Last time I dynoed on pump gas the car made 452whp and 380wtq on 31psi
I've since swapped intake manifolds from VSR to F1, replaced Comp 280s with Kelford 276 high lift cams, converted to speed density, and built a new 321 turbo header w/ slip fit low angle merge collectors.



I think there's maybe a little bit more left on the table, but this should be a pretty safe tune. I had ZERO knock anywhere.

Is this still on pump gas? What compression ratio? 35psi seems like a lot of boost for pump gas. I would be scared to do it! Great power!

If this is accurate, those are incredible numbers.

not sure what your goals with setup are. if planned to be on 93 octane or not. but my observation is this is a VERY laggy 500whp setup. thin wall stainless headers kill torque, as do sheet metal intakes. and this setup certainly shows it. if of course your goal was 500whp on pump on a red sized turbo then this is a good way to do it.

It should be pretty damn close. I weighed the car full of fuel, myself and the contents recently. I went and filled the car up before tuning tonight and this was on the third pull less than 3 miles away from the pump.

Can you bless us wih a video

*******it Jerry...do you have a personality disorder? If there is a chance for you to get on your soap box and scream "laggy" or comment on how a tubular turbo header or intake manifold ruins the bottom end power of a set up, you never miss a chance. You are correct...feel better now??
I do feel that "VERY laggy" or you saying that I "killed tq" by using these is a subjective debate. This 2.0L set up still makes 300lb/ft by 4100 and 300whp by 4,400. Not to mention it makes over 500whp from 5,800 past 8,000 and 450+ wtq on pump gas...that doesn't sound dead to me.

20psi by 4K rpm is pretty good and the benefits of the long tube header design can be seen by how well the setup holds power up top.

Walker, great results and can you post your timing at peak torque and redline for the 93 octane tune?

That quote is priceless! Go get'em!! You are still more daring then me on pump gas. I would at least run some method injection. But I am a sissy.

I don't have the logs with me at work, but from memory I looks like this:

4,500-6,700
9deg

6,800-7,100
10deg

7,200-7,500
11deg

7,600-8,400
12deg

8,500-
13deg

Tonight, I can post the log data. Load was around 340 at peak.

An FP Black on a 2.4 usually makes 300 ft lbs by 4100....VERY impressive Walker. I have been waiting to see the results from the new header. So this kind of follows what 03whitegsr was saying yesterday, TS seems to reset what most think of octane limit vs boost? I'd be interested to see the knock voltage if it was logged.

Aaron

That means alot coming from you Aaron. There are some awesome cars that come out of English racing as a direct result of you being there. I do agree with your statement regarding octane vs boost and TS. I'm not sure what 03 said, but my understanding of why has to do with less potential for reversion from paired cylinder collectors vs. open collectors. It's also why some suggest running a more aggressive camshaft w/ more duration on a TS setup vs. open.

Thanks my friend

Reversion is a son of a B. Timed collectors and long tube at that all make sense in what they are doing to help keep it at bay.

Yeah more aggressive cams makes sense since it bleeds of compression anyway and we can monopolise on a higher volume of "clean" air in the cylinder.

This was all he had said-

sorry you are insulted. there is really no gentle way of posting a negative comment. but I stand by my views. if I build 500whp setup I will get 400tq by 3800rpm. that is a 1000rpm to the left of what you have. there is really no way to describe how much more fun the car is. but if you ever get to tampa be sure to look me up. be happy to show you.

On a 2.0L or a 2.4L? I'm not insulted. I just don't understand your compulsions. The gentle way would be to keep it to yourself. I don't understand the merrit in posting negative comments in any thread to begin with.