Do you have any graphs I could take a look at?

 

i have my dyno graph but it doesnt have the boost on it. but its the HP TQ curve and the rpms

 

Any ideas on roughly what I'm leaving on the table by not removing the MAF and going 3 port with SD? Toying with this idea now..

 

I would recommend using a seperate line for your BOV and boost controller.

Spool looks laggy forsure.. My buddy has a 2.3 with fp red and smaller cover along with hks264 cams (cali smog)... Usually gets full boost before 4k

 

nice

 

Hmm.. Mind sharing a picture of how he has it set up?

There is no nipple on the LICP so moving the MBC there is not an option unless I fit it with one.

 

My 2.4 6262 spools the same as this in 3rd gear. It does seem laggy and usually Mustang Dynos look better if the run time is longer. Why is the power so low for E85? I would be at least 100hp higher than this at 34psi and my car isn't so spectacular in power per PSI. I would expect this power from a Green maybe with better spool. Although Boostin goes fast with low numbers from their Dyno. Have you run the car at the track? What does it weigh?

I want to drive an HTA Green 2.4L car!

 

At this power level on Boostins dyno I've seen videos of Evo's going 10.5 @ 131. I'm not sure of the weight but nothing has been deliberately removed for weight reduction, ie. full street trim. I'm obviously not taking full advantage of my setup by leaving the MAF and stock ECU but in reality the car has met MY goals.

I'm planning a trip to the strip sometime before this season is up.

 

Well trapping 130+ is great. I would be happy with that. I still think it is lazy down low for a red on a 2.3.

 

You need an intake manifold, Badly. Also get the bigger advance flow turbo inlet and the FP Inlet pipe, it'll give you 50WHP and you'll hold torque longer for sure

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...e=Lancer-Turbo

 

NP. No as long as its after the turbine housing it wont hurt your spool or anything like that.

Here's a graph of a evo 9 with built 2.0L and Journal bearing FP Red. To show you spool and response in general.

Car had s2 cams. SD and 3 port also.



If you run your car as is at the track with that graph and not touch the boost, you would be looking at like a 126 trap speed. Your cars dropping off to 25psi at redline, thats why its not making a ton of power. It needs a 3 port and the MAF removed.

Now if you took the car to the track and cranked the MBC way up (which you certainly can do), you will hold a solid boost to redline and the car will MPH very good.

So when you take it to the track crank your boost way up, but just remember to turn it back down or it will spike super high on the street.

At the drag strip you're never loading the turbo up, so technically there's never a loaded spool, its just starting at your 2 step RPM and maintaining above that RPM throughout the pass. So with a MBC you crank the boost up a lot at the track.

 

Nice build

 

I've seen this results with a green so I'll say you still have room for more.

 

When I had the turbo out for a rebuild, if I was going to the 84mm compressor cover I would have just upgraded to the Black. But I am adamant about keeping the Evo 9 compressor cover. I just love the stock, tame look of a small factory turbo. That's the reason for being hesitant on going speed density as well.

Wow, I've never heard of doing that before. That's interesting and scary at the same time. Nothing on the tune has to be changed if I do that to compensate for the higher boost? I would feel very uneasy.

At the same time, I really want to go speed density + 3 port now. Sounds like I'm leaving a lot left over for two simple mods.

I would hope to trap higher than that as 126pmh is what I trapped on 2.0 + FP Red + HKS 272. I trust what you see here though. I appreciate you taking the time to respond!

Thanks!

 

Now that you mention it, I just found those results but in that case no dyno plot to prove it.

To be honest I know where the faults are in my setup now. First of all, my Forge DV is gen 1 from about 10 years ago So that needs to be upgraded. IDC's were at 95% so bigger injectors are in order. Possibly upgrading to a 4" intercooler. And then SD + 3 port. Maybe then I will be on par with others.