600whp stock block 93 pump
Nov 23, 2015, 12:59 AM
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Will be soon, debating on driving 90min to a Dyno jet instead of the heart breaking mustang Dyno. Vdr weight doesn't include my fat ***, 260lbs, flat road, all pulls over 600whp after 31psi
Nov 23, 2015, 04:11 PM
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I think it'll be around 550 on a dynojet from my experience and that fuel & that turbo.
make sure in AEM you have hz rate set right and stuff.
1. Open AEM Log
2. Zoom up on your 3rd or 4th gear pull, go from the start of WOT and a little past REDLINE.
3. File -> Export as Text
3.1 Click Engine Speed, click the > so that it shows up in Exported Channels
3.2 Export data range = Current zoom area
3.3 Export data as = Real
3.4 Restrict rate to 10hz
4. Click Export
5. Open the Text File
keep in mind stock rods will start to fatigue around 460wtq.
If its still on the stock final drive make sure you do the dyno runs in 4th to get yourself the maximum amount of power output.
make sure in AEM you have hz rate set right and stuff.
1. Open AEM Log
2. Zoom up on your 3rd or 4th gear pull, go from the start of WOT and a little past REDLINE.
3. File -> Export as Text
3.1 Click Engine Speed, click the > so that it shows up in Exported Channels
3.2 Export data range = Current zoom area
3.3 Export data as = Real
3.4 Restrict rate to 10hz
4. Click Export
5. Open the Text File
keep in mind stock rods will start to fatigue around 460wtq.
If its still on the stock final drive make sure you do the dyno runs in 4th to get yourself the maximum amount of power output.
Nov 23, 2015, 06:02 PM
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Its over 600whp no doubt about it. I walked away from a 500whp evo last night with 2 people in my car an he got the brake from a 40-140roll. That was only at 29psi.
I think it'll be around 550 on a dynojet from my experience and that fuel & that turbo.
make sure in AEM you have hz rate set right and stuff.
1. Open AEM Log
2. Zoom up on your 3rd or 4th gear pull, go from the start of WOT and a little past REDLINE.
3. File -> Export as Text
3.1 Click Engine Speed, click the > so that it shows up in Exported Channels
3.2 Export data range = Current zoom area
3.3 Export data as = Real
3.4 Restrict rate to 10hz
4. Click Export
5. Open the Text File
keep in mind stock rods will start to fatigue around 460wtq.
If its still on the stock final drive make sure you do the dyno runs in 4th to get yourself the maximum amount of power output.
make sure in AEM you have hz rate set right and stuff.
1. Open AEM Log
2. Zoom up on your 3rd or 4th gear pull, go from the start of WOT and a little past REDLINE.
3. File -> Export as Text
3.1 Click Engine Speed, click the > so that it shows up in Exported Channels
3.2 Export data range = Current zoom area
3.3 Export data as = Real
3.4 Restrict rate to 10hz
4. Click Export
5. Open the Text File
keep in mind stock rods will start to fatigue around 460wtq.
If its still on the stock final drive make sure you do the dyno runs in 4th to get yourself the maximum amount of power output.
Nov 24, 2015, 09:53 AM
#21
my comment was under the impression the turbos under the 3582R.
As long as the AEM was configured as I listed, the pulls are being done on flat interstate roads, and all else is set correctly in vd it will be very close to the real dyno assuming the dyno room isn't super hot vs outside.
As long as the AEM was configured as I listed, the pulls are being done on flat interstate roads, and all else is set correctly in vd it will be very close to the real dyno assuming the dyno room isn't super hot vs outside.
Nov 26, 2015, 12:06 AM
#27
thats what I was guessing. But I mean Ive seen buit motors run 93 octane at that boost level but they were not TQ limited and at a higher compression. Maybe this motor just breaths exceptionally well with the combination of parts? I mean technically as long as the car doesnt detonate and the rods hold up you can keep making power lol.
Nov 26, 2015, 01:13 PM
#28
The bolt on mods he has are solid, so that's not a problem. The problem for me to see it go over 600 easily on 93 was the turbo he is using. If its smaller then a 3582R its not gonna do those numbers on a real dynojet. I can see it peaking around 570WHP on 93 and being done.
I may be wrong about the turbo size though.
stock block is perfectly safe for boost on 93. Its very low compression. The problem with the stock block is its clearances are very very tight. To tight of clearances are not good for a lot of power. Less cushion and ability to run a thicker oil to protect bearings. If you run to thick of oil on a tight clearance, you are doing more harm then good by starving the bearing of surface lubrication.
The rods are the weak links. They will bend around 460wtq dynojet after so many runs. They will hold up for a long time though sometimes.
A stock block internal engine that's smoother and comes in later in the RPM will last a lot longer then something that comes in early and peaks tq sooner. (rods are happier)
If the turbos around the size of a 3582R with his bolt on mods that power on 93 is very possible and shouldn't be debated.
Also it could make over 600 on the street due to the cold dense air, then not be able to do it on a dynojet due to the air density and temps in general of the room the dynos placed in.
Its winter where he lives, so it is going to be a lot easier to make power then summer. for every 1F drop its basically 1WHP gain.
The high boost on 93 is not a problem as long as the fuel is that good and can take the boost while also allowing the tuner to add enough timing to keep the engine functioning efficiently and safely temp and knock free.
I may be wrong about the turbo size though.
stock block is perfectly safe for boost on 93. Its very low compression. The problem with the stock block is its clearances are very very tight. To tight of clearances are not good for a lot of power. Less cushion and ability to run a thicker oil to protect bearings. If you run to thick of oil on a tight clearance, you are doing more harm then good by starving the bearing of surface lubrication.
The rods are the weak links. They will bend around 460wtq dynojet after so many runs. They will hold up for a long time though sometimes.
A stock block internal engine that's smoother and comes in later in the RPM will last a lot longer then something that comes in early and peaks tq sooner. (rods are happier)
If the turbos around the size of a 3582R with his bolt on mods that power on 93 is very possible and shouldn't be debated.
Also it could make over 600 on the street due to the cold dense air, then not be able to do it on a dynojet due to the air density and temps in general of the room the dynos placed in.
Its winter where he lives, so it is going to be a lot easier to make power then summer. for every 1F drop its basically 1WHP gain.
The high boost on 93 is not a problem as long as the fuel is that good and can take the boost while also allowing the tuner to add enough timing to keep the engine functioning efficiently and safely temp and knock free.
Nov 28, 2015, 04:28 PM
#29
These numbers are awesome!
But, Im having a difficult time seeing you making 630whp on the Dyno and if so, you are on borrowed time.
Only one way to find out though, and hopefully I am wrong!
But, Im having a difficult time seeing you making 630whp on the Dyno and if so, you are on borrowed time.
Only one way to find out though, and hopefully I am wrong!
Last edited by SiriusEvo; Nov 28, 2015 at 04:46 PM.
Nov 29, 2015, 12:13 AM
#30
I'm a little confused- is this the turbo being used here?
http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=VHS
If so- how exactly did you set up the external waste gate?
http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=VHS
If so- how exactly did you set up the external waste gate?