do not have an evo yet. still trying to sell my integra.

my gf use to work at best buy and i got some car audio for the integra with her discount. never installed it in the integra. decided to sell it before i had the chance (one michigan winter made me want to sell that fwd go-kart. had a wrx before it and miss the awd)

ANYWAYS...i didnt know much about car audio when i got the stuff, and i still dont. i got everything for just about 50% tho =)

Infinity Reference:
6020cs 6.5" component speakers
6022i 6.5" speakers
475a 4-channel 360 watt amp
1600a 600 watt sub amp

Alpine 12" Type R sub

the integra had no audio in it and thats why i got the stuff.
so i guess im asking how good is the stock sound on the evo and how much of an improvement would what i have be? if it wouldnt be much of an improvement i would rather just sell the stuff and put it to better use =)

 

Infinity Reference speakers are decent for their asking price. To get them at about half the price, no problem. I use these in my car. The sounds pretty crisp, and I am running an amp barely big enough to get the power they want.

The type R sub...well, when built into a box that's made for the sub, and with the right power, it will slam pretty hard. I'm not much into all around sound in my Evo anymore because I don't want the extra weight. However, I might plan to upgrade to MBquart speakers. 6.5 fronts and custom mounted 6X9 rear. That with a bigger amp will give me much better sound quality than the Infinity speakers....but at a much higher price.

 

will i really be adding much weight?

stock they already have 6.5" components up front and 6.5" combo speakers in rear right?

so ill just be adding the weight of an extra amp and sub. or am i missing something?

so youre saying keep the infinity stuff? its either the infinity reference stuff i have or staying stock. would not be able to justify spending more money than i already have on audio.

 

Yes, you will. To add insult to injury, the gear isn't great to begin with. You may want to consider omitting the rear speakers, buying a quality set for the front along with a good amp, and forgetting about a sub until you can tune one successfully in this car. Good luck.

 

i completely agree that my stuff is not top shelf compared to other stuff out there.
i am just after something that will stay clear when the volume is turned up a bit and not have to spend a ton. even if you are an audiophile i think this is all you could ask for in a car. save the good stuff for at home where you dont have road noise (thats my opinion anyways)

so my question just boils down to if these will be nicer than stock?

just wondering why you would be against me putting a sub in my car?

 

<grin> Define nicer than stock. It will be louder, that's for sure. If you want to minimize the negative impact of the gear, install just the front speakers and an amp. If you want the best sound with what you have, leave the stock speakers in place and install a HU and an amp, then tune the system.

When the Evo is on the move, it produces a prodigious quantity of low frequencies on its own. This causes random cancellations/reinforcement on the low end that makes bass sound like a big blob. There are ways to make a sub work in this environment, but we have a ways to go before crossing that barrier. Essentially, you'll need to roll-off the bass at a steep slope at ~45Hz, than tune what's left. Driver-wise, you're best using a high-sensitivity woofer. IOW, the Type-R is out.

 

would deadening the door help the situation with the low end? or isit more complicated than that?

 

Deadening and sealing the doors will definitely help the front speakers, stock and/or aftermarket, deliver a better-defined, more extended low-end. Sub-wise, nothing will help short of extreme tuning. The issue lies with the car, itself.

 

so youre saying ditch a sub altogether and just get a decent front stage and forget about it?

 

If you're not able to invest in a HU with advanced tuning features, and upgrade any other gear, then, yes, forget about a sub for now. It'll be more of a hassle than its worth.

 

im planning on going the carpc route and i dont know anything about the audio side of doing this yet.

i dont know if the pc/soundcard takes the place of the head unit or what

 

The stock system in the evo is pretty bad for a car in that price range.

The stuff you have is going to sound twice as good as what comes in the evo. Yeah if you're some kind of freaky audiophile you might have to do some extreme tuning. You probably won't win any car stereo contests with it.

I would put the stuff in if I were you. Yeah, the evo is a loud car and it will drown out your bass but big deal. It's not like you can't hear it. Subs and amps do have weight to them but who cares? Are you racing? It's about the difference between having a fat chick or a skinny chick in the passenger seat. I don't think the extra weight will make you car too slow.

If you're that worried about weight put quick connects on your sub amp so you can remove it and the sub if you want to reduce some weight.

 

my thoughts on the bass issue (could be way off but it makes sense):

whether or not i tune the system for the strange bass amplification/cancellation affect that these cars supposedly have, the music (the raw music data) is calling for those frequencies to be produced. whether or not that signal or note is produced by a sub or by a 6.5 component would be irrelevant as far as i can tell.

and if my above seasoning is somehow false then that means that the subwoofer would be the only part of the car audio system that could produce the frequencies that the car/road noise would interfere with and i would be losing those frequencies regardless.

an interference pattern will be created when almost any 2 sounds are played at once. so it would seem to me that to combat this problem would just bean issue of eliminating or reducing one of the sounds. in this case it would be road noise. so why would sound deadening not work?

 

Any sub is better than stock Lol.

 

I have the same problem in my gsx, a sub would be useless unless the car is off. With my poly motor mounts, 3" exhaust, all my bass comes from the car itself. Just turn up the music loud and you have your bass, whether your idling or cruising.

IMO, go with good front speakers, keep the factory amp and sell all your stuff for better purposes