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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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I recently purchased a Power pack and am about a weekend away from trying it out. I work mostly with AC current but I did notice the mitsu wiring harness from crutchfield was a smaller gauge (AWG) than the one supplying both head unit and PP. I am planning on turning the volume up to see if the 12 Awg wire I have already pulled is necessary to power the unit + pp. I still have stock speakers, but not for long. I have 2 Zapco AG360's just waiting (+8 years old) to bump this power pack. I have heard ARC is the new Zapco though. Has anyone else noticed this car was meant to have GPS and Bluetooth options? The defrost has a center clip with a cable slot (not in the clip) directly to the headunit for GPS and the 3 little slots in front of your turn signal lead to a void to stealth a mic. Sorry for going off post but I will relay the results of the PP.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Get it! I hacked together the system to see about shortening the Power Packs wiring harness and temporarily put it in the glove box. Sounds great! I had some hiss on a burned cd (wmf) but turned the gain switch from high to low and it almost went totally away. I renounce my former statement because I will not be turning it all the way up. At 60% volume it was getting pretty uncomfortable (guess I'm old). Stock speakers sound better than they ever had. I have the w900bt but the imprint module is on backorder from crutchfield. I can only imagine how much better it will sound with a 4-6volt preamp out and a dedicated sub with amp. For the money; hands down , GET IT!
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Did anyone have an issue installing the KTP-445 with infinity sound system?
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Old Mar 19, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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The alpine pdx 5 is a great amp.
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Old Mar 20, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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Didn't have to shorten the wires. I took off the hazard/ center cab vent carbon. (remove instrument panel dress ring first just 2 philips. Mounted it ontop of the glovebox latch and just wire tied the exta wire. Be carefull though the airbag split loom is right there . I haven't even secured the thing down yet and it hasn't moved an inch. The way it's mounted you can even access the gain control from the top of the glove box when opened.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 01:34 PM
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This may be a dumb question, but I'm not all that audio knowledge inclined. Does this help with the bass when the sound is turned up louder? Or is that just dependent on the speakers themselves?
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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Does this help with the bass when the sound is turned up louder? Or is that just dependent on the speakers themselves?
To answer both questions in a word, yes. Not knowing your expectations and the composition of the system, it's hard to get more specific. The one thing that will help every element of sound quality, including bass, regardless of the equipment is sealing and deadening the doors.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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Tight Midbass

The stocker are very competent with the power pack, but nothing is going to produce deep base in any stock configuration. A dedicated sub with amp is required for this. Check out wicked cas ( sorry more interested in answering questions than posting links ) for a Magic box if you want a factory look with low end bass for you system.

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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dizaryl
The stocker are very competent with the added amplification, but nothing is going to produce deep base in any stock configuration. A dedicated sub with amp is required for this. Check out wicked cas ( sorry more interested in answering questions than posting links ) for a Magic box if you want a factory look with low end bass for you system.
While the enclosure is very nice and does look factory, low bass (40Hz and below) isn't going to happen in this car when it's moving. At least not on a level that can be perceived by the listener.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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Do you agree that deep bass cannot be achieved with stock speakers?
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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IMHO, unless you're talking about mid-bass coming out of the stock speakers you won't have any true deep seat rattling bass. And that dosen't matter what you amplify the speakers with...
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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Exactly
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dizaryl
Do you agree that deep bass cannot be achieved with stock speakers?
You cited "low bass" in your previous post. I replied, because the term has a specific definition. Now you mention "deep bass." I don't know what that is. I mean, frequency-wise. The stock speakers in a sealed/deadened door are good for a solid ~60Hz. That's low enough to move one's kidneys, but the question is, at how high a volume? The speakers won't play loud enough that low to achive a desired effect. Not even close, so we use an outbard bass module, if you will. This being said, the car poses a number of limitations of its own, one of which is an inability to support low bass, meaning below ~40Hz, when it's moving. It just won't happen. This isn't to say that a lot of musical information exists on that side of the spectrum to begin with.

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IMHO, unless you're talking about mid-bass coming out of the stock speakers you won't have any true deep seat rattling bass. And that dosen't matter what you amplify the speakers with...
Well, of course. How is this even a consideration?

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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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Just throwing it out there so people don't think this amp will magically turn their door speakers into subwoofers...LOL
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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I apologize at mixing defined definitions of bass. That being said... A Power Pack minus a dedicated sub/amp setup will not give the low end bass I think the poster was talking about; just good midbass alaa Jamiroquai, Cake, Dire Straights. If you want Onyx you need a sub with an amp.
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