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4G63... outdated and archaic?

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HobieKopek
When it comes to winning races and making money it seems Mitsubishi's pretty conservative. They seem to have a sort of military "If it wins/works, don't fix it". Well it's not winning anymore, so it may be time to innovate. Then again, it could just be the drivers.
HAHA everywhere I've been in the Army it's "If it ain't broke, let's fix it!"
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 05:41 AM
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Just an FYI the Evo 8 isnt being used for WRC. Mitsu hasnt won a world title in some time. Heck they pulled out rallying to reorganized in the hopes of being competitive in 2005.

As for making the engine bigger. Well I hope they do that in the US. I'd hate to see this happen worldwide. It would be akin to what Subaru did with the USDM STi.

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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Probably by the time the 4G63 can not be improved anymore, will be when electronics are now powering the cars of the future/today...
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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Simply put, the 4G63 is the best 4-banger on the planet, bar none...
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Strength to me, is the top priority of a turbocharged factory motor. The 4G63 has proven it can support high boost and horsepower levels reliably.

Technology wise, at least continuously variable valve timing should have come standard on the EVO by now. MIVEC is about as technologically advanced as camshaft phasing has gotten, and I hope they incorporate that into the next EVO for good bottom end torque and top end HP.

Things like sodium filled valves, magnesium valve covers, forged internals, hollow cams, and twin scroll turbo's are all technological aspects that should be well noted. I can't think of many cars for 30k that gives you all of that.

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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 02MaximizedVQ
Things like sodium filled valves, magnesium valve covers, forged internals, hollow cams, and twin scroll turbo's are all technological aspects that should be well noted. I can't think of many cars for 30k that gives you all of that.

Jesse
I can think of only one...
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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Wow, the thread that just won't die.

Apparently Mitsu agrees that the motor is outdated because they have already planned its replacement. The Evo X, right? The world engine program from DCX, Mitsu and Hyundai has an aluminum block, right? And I think it comes in 1.8,2.0 and 2.4L castings. Despite money troubles, I don't think future development of the Evo ever stopped.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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Direct injection is the next big thing. Both VW and Mazda use it in their new turbo engines allowing them to run higher compression ratios
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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well they have 2 keep it a 2.0 unless they pull out of the WRC, for good that is, not liek wut they are doing right now. they havnt won anything cause mits is pretty poor right now and they dont have enough funds for the WRC team, so they are just gettin as much done as they can with the money they are given each year, but wait till 2005 and see, i think the Evo will prove to be just as great as it use to be. plus IMO i dont like how subaru upped the displacement in the USDM STi's such a break from heritage. Anyways, if Mits does pull out for good i dont think they will market the EVO anymore, it'll prob be under some other name with a bigger engine. Afterall they only build this car so they can race and even though its one of the most thought after cars, mits would probabily kill the lines and save the name EVOLUTION for future use.

just my 2 cents
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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inline 4's = 1 head, 1 valve train.
Boxers= 2 heads, 2 valve trains. 2x rotating mass and **** to break.

inline 4's are cheap to make, easier to push to the limit and cheaper to fix once blowed up.

I opted for an evo specifically becuase it is so much easier,fun,cheap to work on than a rex.
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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I'd like to see variable valve timing and a timing chain.
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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4G63 has been here for quite sometime but it's not outdated. Rock solid performance!
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 05:13 AM
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why stop at VVT? why not go for air valves like the F1 boys run? not that would be cool. direct injection could help. they could stick a VNT turbo on there (when Garrett can make one that will work at high EGTs) to reduce spool up even more. engine coatings will be coming in soon. some guys are running engines with the whole of the chambers coated with a TBC to help reduce det and run higher boost. there are also self lubricating coatings that could be applied to the bearings and such..............

and the list goes on.

thanks Chris.
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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isnt the evo IX gonna have the MIVEC on the 4g63? sorry if its kinda off-topic
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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just rumors, plus hsant mits had MIVEC for a while now? i mean its not on the WRC evo... so i guess they have no use for it... then it wont be on the normal evos either..
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