Yes, I have the 10.5t. The 'around town' response is fabulous. I haven't noticed anything detrimental about it - all positive. The larger nozzle size helps to give quite a midrange torque wallop. I bought mine from Dyno4mance, paid less than a grand. This turbo should have come stock on the car.

 

is this a real TME 6.5 or the one from forcedperformance.net ?

 

I didn't know there was a difference, but AFAIK, it didn't come from FP.

 

so are we claiming that the FP TME turbo is false and not the correct unit? looking at the site it appears to be a true TME turbo, but that they also sell the 10.5 hot side seperately. This is how stupid rumors get started, lets squash this one now. Don't badmouth a vendor based on an assumption.

 

Young man, there was a question posted by myself as to whether FP is selling a "Ti" "TME" turbo or not. If they are not, (even if it is the equivalent) and are inferring that they are selling a "TME", then there can only be one conclusion. The point is, that it is a question, and not a statement. I've seen/heard nothing bad about FP, and have no beef with them. Please lead a crusade elsewhere as this is a tech forum, and not a "superhonda" bicker fest.

*update* I've revisited the FP site since the above post, and it does "appear" they are claiming to sell a "TME" turbo. Looks good. No reason for worries... a RS TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T vs. the TD05RA-15GK2-10.5T for the GSR...

 

I was told the following

"The FP turbo is a hybrid and not a true TME turbo.. However this is a good thing because the TME turbo had a different turbo wheel which didn't seem to have the same low-end torque as this hybrid does."

MalibuJack seems to do his homework. Dunno what the truth is

 

The TME turbo is in short supply.. the hybrid turbos are TD05HRA-16G6-9.8t turbos with the 10.5t housing on them.. this is NOT the TME turbo which has a different compressor wheel..

(BTW the HRA designation is what determines if its a Titanium setup, not the T at the end, an Iconnel turbo uses HR)

So far all testing shows that the hybrid turbo is a better choice anyway.. the bigger Turbine housing slows spool by around 300rpm, however the Titanium components recover that spool... Everything else claimed is true though, midrange torque is gained, and there is some overall gain in horsepower.. However the power under the curve at lower RPM before full spool is stronger therefore the car feels stronger before full boost improving drivability.. overall its a no-lose situation, whether you upgrade just the turbine housing on a stock turbo, or source a complete Titanium turbo with the 10.5 housing..

Also, the new USDM (2005) 10.5 turbo housing uses a revised wastegate opening, therefore its O2 housing design may be different.. Gains will be similar, but it may address issues such as boost creep or other actuator based problems that may crop up (which I have not personally seen therefore I am not sure what they would be) since the O2 housing is likely revised, I think the Downpipe and aftermarket O2 housings will likely need to be modified or they just won't fit.

 

I don't recall what FP's answer was on the FP titanium Turbo that is being sold.. I did copy their reply from an e-mail into a thread SOMEWHERE on the forum where they specifically answered what kind of turbo it actually was.

 

thanks man, you are always 'MalibuJack' On the spot

 

I talked to FP last week and while I did not ask about their TME turbo being a Ti unit or not, I did menthion that I had their 10.5 back half that is going on my stock turbo. Robert said that they have Ti wheels/shafts to put on a stock turbo for around $370 I think. Now, I do not know if that is installed or not, but the price he quoted was right around there.

 

Hmm... 10.5 , Ti wheel / shafts. Like $650, save $300. Thats tempting.

 

And they could port or rework or do whatever it is they do to your turbo while they had it. I thought this sounded like a good idea too.

 

Yes.. They did tell me that it was not cost effective or necessary to do a BB conversion, but the porting etc.. would be somewhat limited..

 

If they install a ti turbine wheel & buy a housing for $615, thats very realistic for my wallet. No need for the added expense of a new turbo, outside of having a replacement.........

I wonder what the turn around time is for that upgrade?

I will give them a call about rebalance the new assembly after it's been installed..

 

This is what I plan on having FP do when I get an '05. Have them put the ti turbine wheel on an do a mild porting on the turbo. I will also have the exhaust housing ceramic coated at this time too. That is my evil plan...