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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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EVO 6.5 TME turbo upgrade review

Hey guys,

Well, I have done some initial testing with the EVO 6.5 TME turbo (titanium exhaust wheel and shaft with 10.5 housing) and the results look promissing!

Comparing data logs from my previouse setup to now I have identical spool up even though I now have a larger exhaust housing. Only changes between old data logs and new are the turbo itself, and SS autochrome header/O2 housing installed.

With the lighter exhaust wheel and shaft I expect to have better transiaent response (spool after a shift) and I suspect that with the more free flowing exhaust housing, and O2 sensor housing I am probably making more power at the same boost levels... we will see if I get a chance to head back to the dyno (or the track)

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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wait please claify for us slow minded, you have an evo8 and are putting evo6.5 tme turbo on your stock evo, hoping to get better power than the stock turbo?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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IIRC, EVO 6.5 TME turbo has titanium blade which has faster and better spool up response than our U.S Spec 16G turbo. The TME's turbo also has bigger nozzle area as it has 10.5cm shaft housing which will also help gain better mid range/top-end response with linear torque curves. This is what a lot of other evom members are using (FP hybrid turbo setup). Same concept but less the titanium blade turbines.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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so even a completely stock evo like myself would benifit by getting my hands on just a TME turbine? and in doing so will increase my stock hp and in turn increase the hp on future mods? what would be the difference on getting a mr turbine? btw thanks for the response i am extremely new
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KILTERMAN
so even a completely stock evo like myself would benifit by getting my hands on just a TME turbine? and in doing so will increase my stock hp and in turn increase the hp on future mods? what would be the difference on getting a mr turbine? btw thanks for the response i am extremely new
The difference is around 15-20 hp, in the mid range, probably not too much of a gain peak-wise.

And, yes, you can do this to a stock car, but you'll need some sort of engine management system to make the appropriate adjustments.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:34 AM
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now would the TME turbine be a bad choice because of the EMS involvement? also would the MR turbine (which i hear is larger than ours) be a direct fit and offer better flow for stock and future mods without having to purchase the ems? i do plan on getting a management system but wasnt planning on dong a major turbo upgrade. i also consider a MR turbine and TME turbine to not classify as a major turbo upgrade am i correct in thinking this?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 01:22 AM
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MR turbo at least the JDM specs are similar to the 6.5 TME turbine in they are TD05-HRA 16G 10.5T i.e both titanium shafted 10.5 nozzle turbos. However, the MR has got a larger/more efficient wastegate opening for better boost control. I am not sure if the the MR titanium is std or Iconel shaft is std with titanium as an option....
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KILTERMAN
now would the TME turbine be a bad choice because of the EMS involvement? also would the MR turbine (which i hear is larger than ours) be a direct fit and offer better flow for stock and future mods without having to purchase the ems? i do plan on getting a management system but wasnt planning on dong a major turbo upgrade. i also consider a MR turbine and TME turbine to not classify as a major turbo upgrade am i correct in thinking this?
You'd run into the exact same problem. The turbo housing would be the same (the MR's and all new Evo's get the 10.5), and you would still need to be able to reconfigure your settings. Although, i think i flash may be able to do this for you.

Just do yourself and favor and stay away from the dynoflush.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 03:13 AM
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The stock computer is adaptable enough to compensate for the better turbo without an EMS in my view. I have not changed my tune in the AEM EMS at all, and I am running almost the same air fuel ratios (a bit leaner in the midrange like you would expect) but it should run fine on the stock computer. You will gain MORE if you use engine computer tweaks as well. The MR turbo has the standard inconel shaft and wheel instead of the titanium.... but it has the new wastegate design.

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 04:05 AM
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and I am running almost the same air fuel ratios (a bit leaner in the midrange like you would expect)
Are you running the stock MAS? I wouldn't expect it to run leaner than before. The air meter 'counts' the air, and adds appropriate fuel. If you are getting more air now in the midrange, then I would expect an appropriate fuel increase as well. No?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:35 AM
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Are you running the stock MAS? I wouldn't expect it to run leaner than before. The air meter 'counts' the air, and adds appropriate fuel. If you are getting more air now in the midrange, then I would expect an appropriate fuel increase as well. No?
I am running speed density now with the AEM EMS I do have O2 sensor compensation, and that is why I havn't had to adjust the fuel curves. If I turned that off my curves would be more out of whack.

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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its exactly like going from K03 turbo to KO3 sport (not Ko4) on GTI's and Audies. you will make more power but as ALEX ALEX said about 20whp more on pump and I would think a bit more on race. It's a great upgrade for people who dont want to spend $$$ and keep the stock turbo (since it's a great unit)
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 06:56 AM
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I just had the 10.5t turbo installed along with other mods (Vishnu Stg 1++++), including the Xede. The torque comes on like a gunshot, and the transient response seems instant. This turbo is the absolute ticket if you want best possible turbo performance without making the much larger financial jump to an aftermarket turbo and necessities associated therewith.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
I just had the 10.5t turbo installed. The torque comes on like a gunshot, and the transient response seems instant.
Are you referring to the ti turbo? I see the "t" after the 10.5, just want to be sure.

if it is, Ted b & Fourdoor, how is the "around town" response with hte new turbo? big difference, good or so-so with regards to "tip-in" city driving response?

did you get your turbo from fp? if not, where & how much?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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To add to those questions... is the offering from FP a Ti set up, or just an OE turbo with the 10.5 hot side bolted on. If it is the latter, I'd say FP is using false advertising with "TME".
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