Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

SSAutoChrome Manifold and Performance Coatings Review

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 12:58 PM
  #61  
BenM's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Richmond VA
Originally Posted by Ted B
If you use an aftermarket gasket, you're on borrowed time.
.
sooo... i have this "friend"... NOT ME! that used the aftermarket gasket and i'm... I MEAN HE! was wondering why its not good... and what do you mean by "you're on borrowed time"?

Ben
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 01:04 PM
  #62  
Ted B's Avatar
EvoM Guru
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,334
Likes: 63
From: Birmingham, AL
I used an aftermarket gasket only because I was in a bind, and I paid for it. The factory gasket is a solid piece of steel that has a raised lip, which is sandwiched firmly when crushed and acts as an o-ring of sorts.

The aftermarket gasket is a perforated item with a metallic coating. It is nowhere near as robust as the Mistu item, and I blew it out in about a month. When this gasket is on the way out, exhaust noise will increase and a loss in boost will be realized. When it finally gives, you'll know it. Meanwhile, the factory one looks virtually indestructable.

I'm one of several who has learned this the hard way.
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 01:15 PM
  #63  
BenM's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Richmond VA
so what you're saying is that you know not to use the gasket that comes with it from personal experience... well... that sucks.... should i just get another factory gasket or can i use the old factory gasket? i remember you saying something about a lip that crushes.. so i guess i should just get a new on huh? oh! and do you remember how much it costs for a new gasket?

Ben
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 01:43 PM
  #64  
Ted B's Avatar
EvoM Guru
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,334
Likes: 63
From: Birmingham, AL
Yes, I speak from personal experience, and one that I do not care to repeat.

Do not reuse the factory gasket. Buy a new one. It is only $8.
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:32 PM
  #65  
TURBODAWG's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (54)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,181
Likes: 0
From: NC
Ted B: Did you coat yours inside and out? I guess the oil return line that Zeus had a problem with is fine on yours. Since you didn't uninstall the turbo, you maybe stretching the oil line if the turbo were sitting higher like on Zeus's car, but you would probably never know it. I bought a new gasket, just didn't know if you could use the one that comes with it. I will use the new factory gasket.

Brian
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:49 PM
  #66  
Ted B's Avatar
EvoM Guru
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,334
Likes: 63
From: Birmingham, AL
I believe the coating I'm using is intended for the outside only. It isn't like paint, but forms an insulating layer some .015-.020" thick.
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:48 PM
  #67  
Zeus's Avatar
Thread Starter
EvoM Staff Alumni
iTrader: (66)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,454
Likes: 1
From: Austin, TX
Originally Posted by TURBODAWG
Ted B: Did you coat yours inside and out? I guess the oil return line that Zeus had a problem with is fine on yours. Since you didn't uninstall the turbo, you maybe stretching the oil line if the turbo were sitting higher like on Zeus's car, but you would probably never know it. I bought a new gasket, just didn't know if you could use the one that comes with it. I will use the new factory gasket.

Brian
I think I'm one of only a few people who had the problem... just like some didn't have the issue with installing the #3 tube flange nut. It's still a good enough piece that I'd recommend buying it if your in the market for such a thing. Esp. buying the one from SSAutoChrome if they still offer the lifetime warranty. There are so many clones/re-badged ones floating around now it is not even funny.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 09:25 AM
  #68  
TURBODAWG's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (54)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,181
Likes: 0
From: NC
I got one in last Thursday. I took it to www.calicocaotings.com yesterday. They are about 30 minutes from my house. They are coating the inside and outside with there ceramic coating. It is supposed to hold up to 1650F sustained and 1900 F peak. They have done a bunch of these turbo headers and have good success. I mentioned to the guy about the heat treating of the header to cook out the polishing compounds. He said, "we bake all the parts to 750F" before the apply the coating. He said they haven't had problems like that in the past. The due alot of work for the Nascar teams since they are 20 minutes from Concord, Moorseville area in NC, where alot of the Nascar teams are located.

Zeus, did you reuse the exhaust gasket where it bolts to the head or buy a new OE gasket?

Brian
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 10:24 AM
  #69  
Zeus's Avatar
Thread Starter
EvoM Staff Alumni
iTrader: (66)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,454
Likes: 1
From: Austin, TX
I reused the original gaskets without issues. However, getting new OE gaskets is the best way. The ones that come with the manifold are crap!

Have them check the flanges to make sure they didn't warp them in the heating process.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2004 | 03:45 PM
  #70  
Ted B's Avatar
EvoM Guru
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,334
Likes: 63
From: Birmingham, AL
FWIW, the coating I chose is different. It is comprised of actual layers of ceramic particles that are bonded to the surface. It isn't like paint or a luster finish - it doesn't come in different colors (ceramic is white), and it won't eventually flake off.
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 07:14 AM
  #71  
Az3ar's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,747
Likes: 1
From: none
Well, yesterday I spent 12hrs installing parts on my EVO and on my friends STI. I had to fix my air leak that i am having from SSchrome on runer number 3.. There was no tool that can go all the way in and grap the screw all around so I MADE MY OWN TOOL .... Now I have no leaks and i thight it like it should be..
Attached Thumbnails SSAutoChrome Manifold and Performance Coatings Review-iamg_1955.jpg   SSAutoChrome Manifold and Performance Coatings Review-imag_1950.jpg   SSAutoChrome Manifold and Performance Coatings Review-imag_1952.jpg   SSAutoChrome Manifold and Performance Coatings Review-imag_1961.jpg   SSAutoChrome Manifold and Performance Coatings Review-imga_1945.jpg  

Reply
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 07:50 AM
  #72  
Zeus's Avatar
Thread Starter
EvoM Staff Alumni
iTrader: (66)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,454
Likes: 1
From: Austin, TX
Not knocking you buy any means, but why didn't you just use the open end? That's what I ended up using with no leaks...
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:14 AM
  #73  
TheGVR4kid's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,248
Likes: 0
From: Ft. Pierce, FL
What are the 2 bungs for on the topside, can the factory headsheild be reinstalled over this?
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:26 AM
  #74  
Zeus's Avatar
Thread Starter
EvoM Staff Alumni
iTrader: (66)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,454
Likes: 1
From: Austin, TX
Originally Posted by TheGVR4kid
What are the 2 bungs for on the topside, can the factory headsheild be reinstalled over this?
The anti-lag system offered on overseas models...

No sir...
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 02:27 PM
  #75  
Az3ar's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,747
Likes: 1
From: none
Originally Posted by Zeus
Not knocking you buy any means, but why didn't you just use the open end? That's what I ended up using with no leaks...
The open side did not stop my leak and it got to the point where I was killing the screw. I don’t know how the open side worked for you but its a known thing (ALL my installations) that I use the closed side for ultimate grip and results... take a close look at yours is it leaking???
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:54 PM.