I don't think you can use one example to say that. There are defects and if you put it in ppm it doesn't look good. I don't think people bought this car for grandma driving. quality just sucks

 

The quality doesn't suck...it's design spec's do not meet your expectations.

you can say it's a "performance" car..why doesn't it come with a 3" stainless exhaust? That has nothing to do with quality. niether does the stock clutch.

noone is complaining of clutches BREAKING, no rivets are falling out of disks, no springs are braking, no pressure plates are falling apart. Those would be quality issues

The clutch doesn't have enough clamping load to take drag racing and 6000rpm wot launches. It has nothing to do with quality, mitsu just speced a softer clutch than it realisticly needed. They did the intentionally, as the car is MEANT for street driving not dragstrip use

When I removed my stock clutch at 17k from slippage at the track..it wasn't even halfway WORN OUT. it still has plenty of disk material before it hits the rivets, just the plate pressure and disk material are not designed for racing.

It's not a wear issue either.

 

Back to topic...if the PP is the same most likely the clutch on an MR will not be sufficient for racing or additional hp just like a standard evo8 clutch.

Replace it with a stronger unit when it starts slipping.

 

You can approach it in different angles but it still falls back quailty. If it's to the point where cluthes start breaking and rivets start falling then that's a major alert. just seem to bandaid instead of addressing the root cause (why? why? why?). I don't think will change anything because regardless of this issue, warranty as well the buyers are continuing to buy.

need to define what street driving means and advertise it if that was the intention. This car wasn't target for older people so if expect that they are in the wrong business.

but my .02.

 

good christ man, i will ask, wtf were u doing?!?!

 

my friends just put a exede twin disc clutch on his MR. it fits no problem he tells me.

 

Hey i feel a bit better now, knowing that someone put in an aftermarket clutch for their MR already! Can you tell me where he bought his clutch from? I could really use some help from a shop that knows their cars.

 

it's actually good that we have a clutch that wears out or breaks before the tranny, because clutch is cheaper to replace then your T-case or transmission.

then again, if mitsubishi designed the car to have a bullet proof drivetrain, then we wouldn't have this discussion in the first place.

 

You won't be launching the MR at 6,000, as much as I want too....The 5,000 rpm rev limiter really is an fing buzz kill!!! Getting good times with the MR is going to take some serious practice....not that I have launched mine at all

 

An exedy should work in it no problem.

I will check tommarow pm me if you want a price

 

I am getting the feeling there is a design flaw somewhere else in the drivetrain or even the hydraulic system that is causing these clutch issues. Even people's aftermarket clutches are failing relatively fast from what I understand. Maybe Mitsu should use a cable instead of hydraulic system. Are STIs having similar issues? I haven't heard of any. The MR trans should be bulletproof, is it?

 

One? Try a few dozen members at least on this site with over 30K on the stocker. It's all in how you drive. You can drive this car hard and make it last.
There's a long thread about how many miles on your stock clutch. There are many with no problems including me.

 

My MR clutch is horrible...my regular evo went 12.56@ lacr with the factory clutch, i couldnt even get the MR clutch to not slip and stick at launch. After just 400 miles, Team D just installed the RPS twin carbon clutch assembly, which is bad *** if you are not familiar. The car is still under construction however the clutch went in with no problems. Will have more news next week, or those attending the tuner shootout can see first hand.

 

but 1,12,30 it doesn't matter. The goal is 0 defect and maybe that wasn't goal which is catching up. In ppm terms 1 in 20xx is bad and bad news spread like disease .

If you got a lemon or monday/friday car it doesn't matter if you drive like a grandma which is what want it will still break.

I agree that driver and driving situation is part of the variable but that does not get rid of the fact that there are unsatisfy customer out there on stock cars with **** breaking at low mileage. This does more harm then good. Something is not adding up. It all comes down to why? why? why? and fix the problem instead of bandaiding it.

I bet if the clutch and TC was better design which in terms will help in warranty issues the # of EVO's sold will double. I'm not even asking for a bulletproof solution just make it so the damn thing last longer.

 

If you launch your 4wd EVO once it is possible to fry the clutch, for most people this has been there first taste of a stick awd car with 270+ HP. As DSMotorsport stated, the clutch hasn't been falling apart, it's just been the plates overheating and becoming burnt. It's not a quality issue just the laws of physics at work.

Lesser powered cars do not need the same clamping grip from the plates and so get by with burnt out clutches without the owner even knowing about it. If the clutch was stronger the rest of the drivetrain would take the additional strain as the stock tires are not likely to let go.

Remember the car was based on something built for rallying and not drag/road racing and it's a lot easier to break traction on gravel!