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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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the greddy will hold well over 25 pounds.
Not past 26psi or it will leak like a ****... been there and broke that
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jude
The flutter sound is air being bounced back and forth between the compressor and the valve. If the throttle plate is closed and the valve is closed, the air will head for the compressor (which is already spinning one way) causing the compressor wheel to work harder in order to keep the air going one direction. Some think flutter is harmless but I have a different opinion. It causes unwanted stress on the shaft and can wreak havoc on bearings over time.
Agreed, compressor surge puts onwanted stress on the thrust bearing of the turbo.

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Another thing, what's the difference between a DV and a BOV?
DV = Diverter Valve

BOV = Blow-off Valve

A DV "diverts" the air from the IC piping to the intake, a BOV simply "blow's off" the air to the atmosphere. TiAL makes a BOV since it cannot be rerouted to the intake. The Type-S is a DV that can also be used as a BOV. Most factory (note I said most, not all) DV's can not be used as BOV's because they're designed to remain open when seeing vacuum essentially causing a hole in the IC piping when the throttle is closed, this causes major issues for MAF based cars that aren't running a blow-through setup. Example, an S13 Silvia or Z32 300ZX DV will be WIDE OPEN when seeing vacuum. When these DV's are properly connected to the intake post-MAF it is a non issue since the air they are letting directly into the IC piping is already metered by the MAF.

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by evo 8 ya
Yea sound clips.
Blackevoguy is getting me some clips of the APS BOV, i'll make sure to post them up or have him post em.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sleet
Blackevoguy is getting me some clips of the APS BOV, i'll make sure to post them up or have him post em.
sweet
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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DV = Diverter Valve

BOV = Blow-off Valve

A DV "diverts" the air from the IC piping to the intake, a BOV simply "blow's off" the air to the atmosphere. TiAL makes a BOV since it cannot be rerouted to the intake. The Type-S is a DV that can also be used as a BOV. Most factory (note I said most, not all) DV's can not be used as BOV's because they're designed to remain open when seeing vacuum essentially causing a hole in the IC piping when the throttle is closed, this causes major issues for MAF based cars that aren't running a blow-through setup. Example, an S13 Silvia or Z32 300ZX DV will be WIDE OPEN when seeing vacuum. When these DV's are properly connected to the intake post-MAF it is a non issue since the air they are letting directly into the IC piping is already metered by the MAF.
If this is true, then why does everyone call the EVO's DV a BOV?
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jude
If this is true, then why does everyone call the EVO's DV a BOV?
Incorrect terminology, the fact is it isn't. People just get used to using certain words to describe things even when it's not the right word.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Thank you for posting that. It's really irritating to see "MR BOV stalling my car!!" when it does not come with a BOV. When I see posts like that I think to myself, "is there something this jackass knows about the MR that I don't?" I still want a BOV for the EVO but I won't pick one up until I get the MAF taken care of. I had a BOV on my GTI and it ran like crap. I could never transition my shifts smoothly with the HKS SSQ unit, then I put my Forge back in and wow. Let's all pledge to use the correct terminology and use the terminology in correct context. The world would be a better place if we could all participate.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jude
Thank you for posting that. It's really irritating to see "MR BOV stalling my car!!" when it does not come with a BOV. When I see posts like that I think to myself, "is there something this jackass knows about the MR that I don't?" I still want a BOV for the EVO but I won't pick one up until I get the MAF taken care of. I had a BOV on my GTI and it ran like crap. I could never transition my shifts smoothly with the HKS SSQ unit, then I put my Forge back in and wow. Let's all pledge to use the correct terminology and use the terminology in correct context. The world would be a better place if we could all participate.
Hi. Sometimes on the Internet, its easy to make spelling errors and grammatical mistakes. I hope you are not referring to my post. Oh, and please stop nitpicking and being a jack ***, with your cute responses. The MR DV Valve can fall under a BOV, so i just did it in General. Word? Word...
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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For those of you looking for Sound Clips, here are two links. Both are of the same thing. It is a limited bandwidth type deal, thus two links. Please use first link until it doesnt work and then go to the mirror.

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http://d6.yousendit.com/D/3JWSBO04ZQ.../APS%20BOV.mp3

Mirror:

http://d12.yousendit.com/E/3B6PC7BO6...ror%20Site.mp3

This was done under WOT until about 5k. At 13 or 15 seconds its much clearer. The last part is just normal driving up to about 3k-3.5k. This is directly ouf out of the box settings. I did not change anything, yet.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by blackevoVII
For those of you looking for Sound Clips, here are two links. Both are of the same thing. It is a limited bandwidth type deal, thus two links. Please use first link until it doesnt work and then go to the mirror.

Main:

http://d6.yousendit.com/D/3JWSBO04ZQ.../APS%20BOV.mp3

Mirror:

http://d12.yousendit.com/E/3B6PC7BO6...ror%20Site.mp3

This was done under WOT until about 5k. At 13 or 15 seconds its much clearer. The last part is just normal driving up to about 3k-3.5k. This is directly ouf out of the box settings. I did not change anything, yet.
The links are not working for me.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jude
The world would be a better place if we could all participate.
The world would be a better place if people like you did NOT participate. PS- The links do not work for me either.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Spend some time tweaking the type s and it runs perfect! Yes, it does make some boy ricer noices though.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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The links worked for me, I am going to see what z1autos price is for them on their group buy.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Ok. I have another member uploading the clip to wetoddid. Sometimes yousendit can be funny like that. Somehow the link got botched. Option2, i believe will be upping them very shortly...
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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THanks to blackevovii, the link is up. He had to reformat it several times because the server i was using would not accept the format. Here it is, :

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzI2MTQzNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
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