Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

Evo Oil Filter Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 03:21 PM
  #16  
GOKOU's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,762
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
What???

Do you also agree that since water is cheaper, we should use that instead of motor oil?

OEM doesn't always mean best. You get what you pay for, and Mobil 1 has been known for years as being one of the best out there for a very competitive price.

BTW, I was showing the price the dealership would charge for the OEM oil filter. If you are going to compare the price Auto Zone will charge for the Mobil 1 one, then I can quote the dealership's price.
Don't put words in mouth cuz I never said that OEM is better or cheaper is better. Everyone have their own opinoin and decision as to what they use. I choose to stick with OEM because it's cheaper and is use by . Although FRAM is not the best I've been using it on supras, hondas for the life of the car and have seen no issues. To each their own peference.
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 07:56 PM
  #17  
rsboy's Avatar
Evolved Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,365
Likes: 1
From: Detroit, man!
Check out Purolator also. They are priced very nicely and have been good for me when I had my Impreza. I will most likely buy them for my next oil changes. Good quality filters.
Reply
Old Dec 9, 2004 | 08:26 PM
  #18  
90GSX-03EVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,217
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Originally Posted by GOKOU
Don't put words in mouth cuz I never said that OEM is better or cheaper is better.
I just don't understand why people would cut corners on something as important as an oil filter. These engines have very tight tollerances, and I want something that I know will do a good job of filtering out any crap ASAP.

HREVO: Yes, you need to use a new crush washer every time you take out the oil drain plug.

4ce fed: Buy an OEM filter and a Mobil 1 filter. Take a Dremel tool and cut them both open. Maybe you were lucky, maybe the damage will take longer than 2 years (probably will start showing up just after the cars start falling out of warranty age, if you get what I am saying), or maybe the filter worked on that car, and not the Evo. There are quite a bit of differences between the Evo 1,2,3/DSM 4G63 and the Evo 4,5,6,7,8 4G63. For one, I don't remember either of my Eclipse GSX's saying anything about having to use synthetic oil......
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 04:05 AM
  #19  
4ce fed's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 288
Likes: 1
From: AL
I'm glad you don't like the OEM filter. Less demand means lower prices for me. I never said it was the best.

However, I did AutoX in my Eclipse many times. Put many miles on it. Sure there are differences between the DSMs and the Evo. But the oil flows through the filter the same way. And anyone who knows anything about marketing and warranties would know that synthetic isn't required for our cars. The Evo would probably run just as long on dino oil. Syn oil helps protect the turbo from those morons that like to go 90mph to work and then shut the car off without any cool-down time. They make more $$ on oil changes due to higher prices of oil, and pay less in warranty claims.

Same for FRAM. People always said they were complete garbage. I used FRAM on my first Eclipse for close to 3 years. Zero problems. Now, did the internals of my engine look as good as one that ran a Mobil-1 filter? Who knows. The point is that the OEM filter, and most filters out there, are good enough for 95% of the people. If you plan on track racing, where there is a huge demand on the car and oil system, then yes, a different filter might be a good idea.

Oh, and I use the same crush washer every time I change my oil. No leaks.
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 06:47 AM
  #20  
GOKOU's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,762
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
I just don't understand why people would cut corners on something as important as an oil filter. These engines have very tight tollerances, and I want something that I know will do a good job of filtering out any crap ASAP.

HREVO: Yes, you need to use a new crush washer every time you take out the oil drain plug.

4ce fed: Buy an OEM filter and a Mobil 1 filter. Take a Dremel tool and cut them both open. Maybe you were lucky, maybe the damage will take longer than 2 years (probably will start showing up just after the cars start falling out of warranty age, if you get what I am saying), or maybe the filter worked on that car, and not the Evo. There are quite a bit of differences between the Evo 1,2,3/DSM 4G63 and the Evo 4,5,6,7,8 4G63. For one, I don't remember either of my Eclipse GSX's saying anything about having to use synthetic oil......
Like I said to everyone their own choice. And if you want to dep dive I think there are far more things to be concern about compare to oil filter. If you can show me data that a car which uses mobil 1 oil filter vs fram or OEM last longer by xxxx mileage then that would be great. As far as my experience go I've never had issue using OEM and $5 oil filter vs $10 oil filter.

I've never use a new crush washer either.
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2007 | 03:26 PM
  #21  
JJsEvo8's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 703
Likes: 0
From: USA
WIll using a non OEM filter void your warranty?
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2007 | 03:29 PM
  #22  
kreionic's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,258
Likes: 0
From: MD/ NY
Originally Posted by JJsEvo8
WIll using a non OEM filter void your warranty?
Damn man brought back a thread from almost 3 years ago
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2007 | 03:56 PM
  #23  
wokuku's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by kreionic
Damn man brought back a thread from almost 3 years ago
Sure beats starting a new thread and then been called out to search lol
Reply
Old Oct 3, 2007 | 04:03 PM
  #24  
kreionic's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,258
Likes: 0
From: MD/ NY
Originally Posted by wokuku
Sure beats starting a new thread and then been called out to search lol
Very true.

Technically I can guess it could void a warranty. Mitsu is not the greatest for warranty stuff anyway. If your worried about keeping yours stay oem
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 04:17 AM
  #25  
90GSX-03EVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,217
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Originally Posted by wokuku
Sure beats starting a new thread and then been called out to search lol
Yeah, I would have hated to turn you into #23.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:56 AM
  #26  
JJsEvo8's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 703
Likes: 0
From: USA
One other quick question along the same lines.

Does mitsu track your oil changes with them? ie if i get the oil changed by someone else would that get me into warranty trouble?

I can get the OEM filter for 6 bucks and some Mobil1/Amsoil for dirt cheap. A lot better price than the $80 oil change the dealer wants to charge!!!
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:39 AM
  #27  
wshihdnevo's Avatar
Evolved Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (88)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 1
From: Tacoma
I always used mobil 1 filters until i found out oem was much cheaper, so i go w/ oem...I think its prob around the same quality for the price. IMHO


EDIT: I now run Wix and might be possibly trying Baldwin filters too.

Last edited by wshihdnevo; Mar 2, 2010 at 05:01 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2007 | 11:32 AM
  #28  
90GSX-03EVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,217
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Originally Posted by JJsEvo8
One other quick question along the same lines.

Does mitsu track your oil changes with them? ie if i get the oil changed by someone else would that get me into warranty trouble?

I can get the OEM filter for 6 bucks and some Mobil1/Amsoil for dirt cheap. A lot better price than the $80 oil change the dealer wants to charge!!!
Just keep your reciepts for everything. Also, since you're doing your own maintenance, make sure you continue to lube everything else on the car (CV joints come to mind). Most people don't and then they wonder why they start clicking after about 60,000 miles.
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:05 PM
  #29  
JJsEvo8's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 703
Likes: 0
From: USA
Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
Just keep your reciepts for everything. Also, since you're doing your own maintenance, make sure you continue to lube everything else on the car (CV joints come to mind). Most people don't and then they wonder why they start clicking after about 60,000 miles.
Ok, so i took my car into the dealership and watched em/talked with them during the oil change..... All the joints on the car are sealed... so there isnt any other part to lube!!!! They did take the charge down to 60 bucks instead of 80 because i was cool with the tech.

As long as I use Mitsu filters/synthi oil and have a reciept they wont mess with the warranty.

Oh, and they are replacing the rear wing for free (under warranty) since its sun damaged...
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2007 | 02:06 PM
  #30  
Karash's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,274
Likes: 1
From: Okie in PHX
When mitsubishi switched to a universial filter, it was crap. In 2K3, Mitsu had a filter specifically for the Evo, and then stopped offering that a year or two later.

Never buy or use the OEM filter, seriously...especially if you use race gas at all.

I use a K&N model 1010 and it works great. The last OEM filter I had on my car got internal damage somehow and was 'fluttering' inside. I thought it was engine knock, but it turned out to be the OEM filter.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:26 AM.