Ikeya Formula Sequential Shifter
Originally Posted by Rollaway
ive driven dogboxes before.. its as much fun as my os giken full racing clutch for daily driving...
We used to call them "Rock Crushers" on the older muscle cars..straight cut gears and large cogged synchronizers would just CRUNCH unless your powershifting.. Not a fun experience on my race car..
Yeah.. reminds me of the Hurst shifter I had on my race car.. it was similar with a forward/backward ratchet pattern for my manual transmission.. I took it out because driving it on the street was just a pain.
Originally Posted by Rollaway
hmm.. 905... even cheaper.... hey Jack you think you can make this work on a 6sp?
I'd hate to have you order it and discover it can't be made to work..
Jack
I had this shifter in my car for about a day... it's a pain in the *** to get it set up, you have to have it adjusted just right or you'll screw up a syncro quickly... I'm going to wait for a dogbox before I try it again... already messed up a gearset
Originally Posted by SuperHatch
I'm going to add that to my Evo parts wish list under the "Useless stupid modifications" category.
Last edited by Rollaway; Dec 27, 2004 at 11:16 AM.
If you look at that part for what it is, you're trying to make one type of transmission into something it isn't. Our gearboxes were designed as H-pattern boxes, with the ability to go from 5th to 1st when coming to a stop without having to go into every other gear on the way. In a true sequential box there's no need to push the pedal when shifting, and this shifter won't do that for you. You're making something very simple into something very complicated that serves no purpose but to remove flexibility out of a design. And if you think this will help you shift faster or more consistently I'd bet dollars to donuts it won't.
Actually it should help you shift faster and consistently....but a dogbox is in need to fully work properly... so you are partially right... good info but heard it already
Again, this is my opinion which is what this board is about...
You're right, with a dogbox this will work well, but you didn't say that you were getting a dogbox too.
And my major concern with this is when you mis-shift. And I don't mean accidentally hit the shifter, but I mean not disengage the clutch all the way. 2 things will happen, the springs in this shifter will be so strong that they will jam the car into gear regardless of the clutch being disengaged or not. This will result in a damaged hub/sleeve and syncro assembly at the least, but will most likely chew up teeth on the gear too. Another thing that could happen is that the spring isn't strong enough to jam it into gear, but it will hold tension on the shift forks constantly gringing the gear until the revs match for it to slide in, this would pretty much have similar results to option one. And the third option is that this shifter has some kind of safety in it that prevents it from applying constant pressure, such that if the force required to get into gear exceeds x amount, it will cancel shift and do something else magical. I can't read japanese though, so I don't know any of this to be true. All of those options don't seem like good ones to me though, but that's my opinion.
- Steve
You're right, with a dogbox this will work well, but you didn't say that you were getting a dogbox too.
And my major concern with this is when you mis-shift. And I don't mean accidentally hit the shifter, but I mean not disengage the clutch all the way. 2 things will happen, the springs in this shifter will be so strong that they will jam the car into gear regardless of the clutch being disengaged or not. This will result in a damaged hub/sleeve and syncro assembly at the least, but will most likely chew up teeth on the gear too. Another thing that could happen is that the spring isn't strong enough to jam it into gear, but it will hold tension on the shift forks constantly gringing the gear until the revs match for it to slide in, this would pretty much have similar results to option one. And the third option is that this shifter has some kind of safety in it that prevents it from applying constant pressure, such that if the force required to get into gear exceeds x amount, it will cancel shift and do something else magical. I can't read japanese though, so I don't know any of this to be true. All of those options don't seem like good ones to me though, but that's my opinion.
- Steve
evo shifter.
I have a shift base as well as the cables.
Originally Posted by MalibuJack
Does someone have an old shifter base, shifter, and cable mechanism still attached that they want to sell me to see if I Can make something up?
Originally Posted by fimotorsports
I had this shifter in my car for about a day... it's a pain in the *** to get it set up, you have to have it adjusted just right or you'll screw up a syncro quickly... I'm going to wait for a dogbox before I try it again... already messed up a gearset
And I found the perfect answer here...someone who has used it and gave a review.
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