Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.
View Poll Results: Do You Have...
Stock Clutch, NO Noise
16
11.85%
Stock Clutch, WITH Noise
53
39.26%
Performance Clutch, NO Noise
11
8.15%
Performance Clutch, WITH Noise
55
40.74%
Voters: 135. You may not vote on this poll

To Those With Clutch Noises...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 7, 2005 | 10:21 AM
  #16  
Ad-Rok's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
From: DC
Originally Posted by MattGold
Im telling you. First hand expierence (with many cars, not just mine and not just Evos) Twin disc or Stage 1/2 you're going to have that decel noise.

In addition to the Stage 1 clutch I just installed I have a FRESH Team RIP tranny put in. Are any of the noises gone? Nope.

Loud decel, and audiable idle... just the nature of the beast. If you *dont* get these noises, consider yourself one of the lucky few.
Wow, so you have a fresh TRE tranny in there too and still have deceleration noise? then I guess it is just nature of the beast. I was strongly considering a TRE rebuild on my gearbox and/or transfer case.

Let me clarify the "clunk:" basically the clutch will not smoothly engage when i ease out the pedal, it groans and "chudder/chatters." Now I know this is normal for a cold start in wintertime, but I don't feel it's normal on a 50-degree day with some high-speed city and highway mixed driving after the car has more than warmed up.

I'm wondering if the clutch restrictor "pill" is just preventing me from feeling the engagement point properly, and if I should remove it. I have a SS clutch line in. Matt, do you have your clutch restrictor off?

Thanks,
Adam
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2005 | 10:40 AM
  #17  
MattGold's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolved Member
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 658
Likes: 1
From: Metro Detroit
Originally Posted by Ad-Rok
Wow, so you have a fresh TRE tranny in there too and still have deceleration noise? then I guess it is just nature of the beast. I was strongly considering a TRE rebuild on my gearbox and/or transfer case.

Let me clarify the "clunk:" basically the clutch will not smoothly engage when i ease out the pedal, it groans and "chudder/chatters." Now I know this is normal for a cold start in wintertime, but I don't feel it's normal on a 50-degree day with some high-speed city and highway mixed driving after the car has more than warmed up.

I'm wondering if the clutch restrictor "pill" is just preventing me from feeling the engagement point properly, and if I should remove it. I have a SS clutch line in. Matt, do you have your clutch restrictor off?

Thanks,
Adam

Ahhhh, that "clunk".

Seriously, I know what you are talking about. Not so much a noise, but a feeling as well? If we're on the same page, I feel that is more gearbox related, since I no longer have it with the TRE trans.

As for the SS lines, Brass Bushings, Removing the restrictor - I recommend NONE of it... especially the brass bushings (just wait... remove them before you have to replace you shift cables...yeah i had to).

Keep the restrictor in it - I ran 1.6 60' times with it installed, I see *no* place it hurts the performance. As for the SS line, I don't recommend it as I said, and I have to tell you to go back to stock... although there are people that run it with no adverse effects.

I will be starting another thread about my Stage 1 "upgrade" so stay tuned.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2005 | 10:56 AM
  #18  
jj_008's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,064
Likes: 0
From: Salem, OR
Originally Posted by Ad-Rok
Let me clarify the "clunk:" basically the clutch will not smoothly engage when i ease out the pedal, it groans and "chudder/chatters." Now I know this is normal for a cold start in wintertime, but I don't feel it's normal on a 50-degree day with some high-speed city and highway mixed driving after the car has more than warmed up.
Adam
Interesting. I get the groaning on engagment, but I don't have any chudder or decel noise. Even when it was 20 degrees I never had an issue with being jerky. The groaning is annoying though. Another weird thing I feel is when I am slowly engaging the clutch I can feel one disk grab then it fully engages.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2005 | 02:11 PM
  #19  
KazzEvo8's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 2
From: Illinois
Bleed that slave cylinder - do it thoroughly... it helped my engagement immensely.
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2005 | 06:59 PM
  #20  
992gnt's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,296
Likes: 0
From: Kentucky
Well as compelling as Matt's argument is, I'm going to take mine in to get looked at. I changed the tranny fluid last weekend with the hope of quieting things down. Didn't help at all, in fact the drain plug had a fair amount of metal shavings on it even though the fluid was only about a MONTH old and the plug was cleaned off when the Exedy was put in. My decel noise is catastrophic sounding. There is no way there should have been that much metal on the plug in less than 1500 miles. At this rate my tranny will be a pile of dust by 100k.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 07:59 PM
  #21  
feriosi'evotwin's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: chicago
i got ACT and when i engage my clutch and give the car gas it has a weird sound to it i dont know if's the tires or the drivetrain it wasnt like this at first it happen at about 2500 miles my tires are stock and still have alot of meat left. but i do drift in rain and snow so theres wear on the side of my tires help?
Reply
Old May 12, 2005 | 09:57 AM
  #22  
Smoothgangsta's Avatar
Evolved Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 584
Likes: 0
From: United States
As far as the noises or characteristics go with the twin disk here are mine -

1. Car in first gear from a dead stop when accelerating acts like it wants to stall if I don't give it more gas than the factory clutch.

2. Decel whining noise is there, almost sounds like a low groaning noise through the transmission when downshifting from any top gear to a lower gear.

3. Rattle/chatter noises are there when clutch pedal is disengaged (i.e pushed in). The noises seem to be getting a little quieter at idle as time/mileage are added to it. However, when I am shifting I get the rattle/chatter when disengaging the clutch between shifts which to me seems alot louded than the chatter noise when at idle.

I am kinda 50/50 on the noise thing, I just turn up the radio a bit to drown 90% of it out. But you guys offer up an excellent explanation and I understand the design issues behind a twin plate. I just wish sometimes the clutch were a little more quiet.

Some people have told me that over time and after about 750-1500 miles of break-in the clutch has quieted down,I will wait to chime in on this.

I guess I prefer the noise damping of the factory clutch over the Exedy, but the clamping and engagement of the Exedy is hands down better than the factory setup. The factory clutch seemed a bit too spongey to me.

After I had the Exedy twin disk installed for whatever reason it's harder to get the transmission into REVERSE only. I life up on the reverse knob, shift to the right, and it's when I try and shift down into reverse that I have to use a bit more force.

I spoke to Buschur Racing about it and David talked to his brother (who does the clutch installs) and apparently the klevis can from time to time need adjustment after the installation.

Anyone else have this problem with REVERSE? And if so, what was your remedy to get it to shift better into REVERSE?

Last edited by Smoothgangsta; May 12, 2005 at 10:03 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2005 | 10:38 AM
  #23  
hel_if_ino's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
From: Monterey, CA
I just had the exedy organic installed, with a fidanza flywheel. Now I have heard a supra with an extremely light flywheel, and it makes a LOT more tranny noise, so I was wondering if this decel noise is attributed to the lighter flywheel, do you all have lightened flywheels??? My decel noise is outrageous! When I am in 4th gear, at about 40mph, and I let off the gas, it sounds like it is going to blow up, but it only resonates for so long, then it goes away below a certain speed... so I wonder if it is just from the flywheel...?
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2005 | 02:54 PM
  #24  
ACTman's Avatar
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,180
Likes: 2
From: lancaster, ca
Originally Posted by hel_if_ino
I just had the exedy organic installed, with a fidanza flywheel. Now I have heard a supra with an extremely light flywheel, and it makes a LOT more tranny noise, so I was wondering if this decel noise is attributed to the lighter flywheel, do you all have lightened flywheels??? My decel noise is outrageous! When I am in 4th gear, at about 40mph, and I let off the gas, it sounds like it is going to blow up, but it only resonates for so long, then it goes away below a certain speed... so I wonder if it is just from the flywheel...?
That is one of the tradeoffs of the lighter flywheel or inadequate dampening in the disc. It doesn't hurt anything, but it can make a racket.

FYI: On the Supra, they are eliminating the dual mass flywheel which normally does the dampening and the disc is rigid, so the noise can be pretty loud. On the other hand, the EVO has more severe torsional vibrations than the Supra because it is a 4 cylinder instead of a 6 cylinder.

The bottom line is to not worry about it hurting anything, and unless you want to change the flywheel, just turn the radio up and drive.
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:54 AM
  #25  
hel_if_ino's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
From: Monterey, CA
Originally Posted by ACTman
That is one of the tradeoffs of the lighter flywheel or inadequate dampening in the disc. It doesn't hurt anything, but it can make a racket.

FYI: On the Supra, they are eliminating the dual mass flywheel which normally does the dampening and the disc is rigid, so the noise can be pretty loud. On the other hand, the EVO has more severe torsional vibrations than the Supra because it is a 4 cylinder instead of a 6 cylinder.

The bottom line is to not worry about it hurting anything, and unless you want to change the flywheel, just turn the radio up and drive.
Awesome, but yeah you know how it is the first time, scares the **** out of you I thought something was going to fall off, but I am getting used to it now, especially with the benifits, quicker revving, and the car seems fast a **** now.... because the clutch isn't slipping like crazy.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Shaun@AWDMotorsports
EvoX 'For Sale' Engine Internals and Drivetrain
135
Jun 14, 2016 10:31 AM
MitsuJoe
Evo How To Requests / Questions / Tips
468
Feb 20, 2016 11:17 AM
romogst
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
4
Aug 22, 2013 06:57 AM
xXANCHORMONXx
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
6
Mar 5, 2012 11:19 AM
SLO-EVO
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
8
Nov 9, 2010 11:59 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:00 PM.