Advice me on turbo kit
Originally Posted by EVOVII_SWE
I’ve heard that 500hp is about what you could get out of a 2L EVO engine as long as you run pump gas, to really benefit from a larger turbo like the GT35 you must use race gas? And a GT35 on pump gas wouldn’t make much more power than a GT30 you would just lose drivability?
I rode in it a few times, it was very civil for a daily driver actually. Now, the big BR kits, like the 580 are terrible on spool up....
Jerestan, car is the one we are talking about. It use to have a AMS GT35R, UTEC, Kelfrod cams.
The old AMS set up and is now a RnR GT35R, 272's, AEM EMS, RnR Sheet Metal. A guy out here bought the car and decided to change the set up.
The old AMS set up and is now a RnR GT35R, 272's, AEM EMS, RnR Sheet Metal. A guy out here bought the car and decided to change the set up.
Originally Posted by RnR Racing
Jerestan, car is the one we are talking about. It use to have a AMS GT35R, UTEC, Kelfrod cams.
The old AMS set up and is now a RnR GT35R, 272's, AEM EMS, RnR Sheet Metal. A guy out here bought the car and decided to change the set up.
The old AMS set up and is now a RnR GT35R, 272's, AEM EMS, RnR Sheet Metal. A guy out here bought the car and decided to change the set up.
Figured he'd go AMS EMS to get the ultimate control, that's what we advised him.
Originally Posted by RnR Racing
Jerestan, car is the one we are talking about. It use to have a AMS GT35R, UTEC, Kelfrod cams.
The old AMS set up and is now a RnR GT35R, 272's, AEM EMS, RnR Sheet Metal. A guy out here bought the car and decided to change the set up.
The old AMS set up and is now a RnR GT35R, 272's, AEM EMS, RnR Sheet Metal. A guy out here bought the car and decided to change the set up.
word. i miss that car like mad! glad to see it's being put to good use.
jeremy
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,536
Likes: 0
From: Wilmington NC/ Carolina Beach
Originally Posted by RnR Racing
I personally have been really happy with the GT35R kit we sell. Recently we had a customer make 480hp on 91 octance and 20psi. That is with
GT35R W/equal length manifold
AEM EMS
RnR Sheet Metal Intake
RnR Stage 5 head
etc, etc
NO alcohol injection
GT35R W/equal length manifold
AEM EMS
RnR Sheet Metal Intake
RnR Stage 5 head
etc, etc
NO alcohol injection
Originally Posted by RnR Racing
Yes, the owner has done a lot of work to it since then. He is tearing up the streets of So Cal now.
hell yes. that thing was a monster then. can't even imagine it now
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere on the Planet
Originally Posted by EVOVII_SWE
Ok, sounds fair enough Ryan, but if you had put on one of the GT30's with the same spec as my friend Nermin bought from you ie. GT3076 with .82 a/r turbine and tuned it as optimal as possible what kind of power could we expect given the same supporting mods? And how much improvement in spool up would we see?
Cheers,
Cheers,
These are all rough estimates. I will have to check my notes later to get the exacts. The 30R will spool 300-400 rpm sooner. On pump gas the 35R would make 30whp more and on race gas another 65-80whp at 30psi
Originally Posted by Reine
Hi I would like to hear what you guys think about the different turbo kits on the market today,
I have a Evo8 and would like to make 400hp on the wheels or more in the future.
The turbo kit’s spec should be as close to this as possible.
-Spool up around 4000-4500rpm.
-Keep full boost all the way to red line (lets say 8000rpm)
-Make so much power I will be afraid to floor it on the street
-Have a dual ball bearing turbo
I have looked at RnR GT35R kit, looks nice seam to be good value for the money to.
HKS are to expensive. Greddy, nah no bb turbos.
I currently have a stock engine, how much hp will it handle? Would 400hp in the engine be safe?
I have a Evo8 and would like to make 400hp on the wheels or more in the future.
The turbo kit’s spec should be as close to this as possible.
-Spool up around 4000-4500rpm.
-Keep full boost all the way to red line (lets say 8000rpm)
-Make so much power I will be afraid to floor it on the street
-Have a dual ball bearing turbo
I have looked at RnR GT35R kit, looks nice seam to be good value for the money to.
HKS are to expensive. Greddy, nah no bb turbos.
I currently have a stock engine, how much hp will it handle? Would 400hp in the engine be safe?
I also noticed your from Sweden. We've sold turbo kits to MANY countries outside the U.S. We even have a world map in the office with pins that show everywhere the kits have gone to. We are very experienced with handling overseas orders and shipping. We love our overseas customers!
847-709-0530 or online at http://www.amstuned.com or http://www.automotosports.com
Last edited by EricJ@AMS; Feb 16, 2005 at 06:06 PM.
Originally Posted by gsnt
If you are the kind of person who wants only the best, give Eric #1 or Micah at AMS a call. The fastest Evo's in the country are equipped with our kit. Its quality and performance speak for itsself. Not to mention it comes fully assembled, ready to bolt on, and FULL step by step color instructions. If the kit itsself doesnt sell you, then search and compare our companies history of excelent customer service and follow-up support.
I also noticed your from Sweden. We've sold turbo kits to MANY countries outside the U.S. We even have a world map in the office with pins that show everywhere the kits have gone to. We are very experienced with handling overseas orders and shipping. We love our overseas customers!
847-709-0530 or online at http://www.amstuned.com or http://www.automotosports.com
I also noticed your from Sweden. We've sold turbo kits to MANY countries outside the U.S. We even have a world map in the office with pins that show everywhere the kits have gone to. We are very experienced with handling overseas orders and shipping. We love our overseas customers!
847-709-0530 or online at http://www.amstuned.com or http://www.automotosports.com
word! ams has always treated me and my car better than anyone else. they know misubishi's and do not try to waste your money on anything that wont' "get you to where you want to be." martin, micah, eric. 1/2 ...etc are all awesome. did i mention that they know how to party?
Here's my take:
I had a BR440 turbo upgrade along with all of the suggested supporting mods. (It has been suggested that the BR440 is very close in terms of perfomance to the GT3071R.) My impression of the power output my car had with BR440 was that it wasn't *quite* scary to drive on the street. Rather than "Oh sh it I'm going way to friggin fast!!!" it was more of a "Hmm, I'm really cookin' down this road, maybe I should slow it down a bit". Don't get me wrong, the car was still offensively fast to casual bystanders or the uninitiated. Front wheel torque steer was just starting to rear it's head. Tuned & sorted out you should see 400whp from the BR440 or GT3071. My car wasn't fully sorted out and only managed ~350whp on a DynoJet with a Dynoflash. Sorted and tuned with a standalone I don't think 400whp with close to stock like spool would be an issue. Toss in some well tuned water injection and crank the boost to 1.8 bar and I think 430whp would be feasible.
My opinion is that the GT30R, while laggy and a little slower to spool, might kick it up a notch or two into the "scary fast" territory. If you're sensitive to those issues then I'd stick with the 3071 or equivalent. Unfortunately I don't have any personal experience with the GT30R.
Personally, since I'm building a 2.3 stroker, I opted for the Full-Race GT35R. With the increased displacement, head work and thermal coatings I'm hoping the spool & lag will be about what I'd see with a GT30R on a 2 liter motor. If you're interested in a low mileage BR440 with cast manifold & down pipe included, I'll sell you mine. I'll let it go for 11000 SEK + shipping & duty
I had a BR440 turbo upgrade along with all of the suggested supporting mods. (It has been suggested that the BR440 is very close in terms of perfomance to the GT3071R.) My impression of the power output my car had with BR440 was that it wasn't *quite* scary to drive on the street. Rather than "Oh sh it I'm going way to friggin fast!!!" it was more of a "Hmm, I'm really cookin' down this road, maybe I should slow it down a bit". Don't get me wrong, the car was still offensively fast to casual bystanders or the uninitiated. Front wheel torque steer was just starting to rear it's head. Tuned & sorted out you should see 400whp from the BR440 or GT3071. My car wasn't fully sorted out and only managed ~350whp on a DynoJet with a Dynoflash. Sorted and tuned with a standalone I don't think 400whp with close to stock like spool would be an issue. Toss in some well tuned water injection and crank the boost to 1.8 bar and I think 430whp would be feasible.
My opinion is that the GT30R, while laggy and a little slower to spool, might kick it up a notch or two into the "scary fast" territory. If you're sensitive to those issues then I'd stick with the 3071 or equivalent. Unfortunately I don't have any personal experience with the GT30R.
Personally, since I'm building a 2.3 stroker, I opted for the Full-Race GT35R. With the increased displacement, head work and thermal coatings I'm hoping the spool & lag will be about what I'd see with a GT30R on a 2 liter motor. If you're interested in a low mileage BR440 with cast manifold & down pipe included, I'll sell you mine. I'll let it go for 11000 SEK + shipping & duty
Last edited by propellerhead; Feb 17, 2005 at 10:04 AM.