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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Screw that, just get your money back from them instead.
Well, we didnt buy the car, we loaned it We wouldnt get any money back, just wouldn't have to make any more payments. But then we'd be without a second car and we just sold our 944 turbo saturday...

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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by omniphil
Well, we didnt buy the car, we loaned it We wouldnt get any money back, just wouldn't have to make any more payments. But then we'd be without a second car and we just sold our 944 turbo saturday...
Ah but you would get money back.

http://autopedia.com/html/LemonLaw/NH_lemonlaw2.html

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If, after a reasonable number of attempts, the manufacturer, its agent or authorized dealer or its delegate is unable to conform the motor vehicle to any express warranty by repairing or correcting any defect or condition covered by the warranty which substantially impairs the use, market value, or safety of the motor vehicle to the consumer, the manufacturer shall, at the option of the consumer within 30 days of the effective date of the board's order, replace the motor vehicle with a new motor vehicle from the same manufacturer, if available, of comparable worth to the same make and model with all options and accessories with appropriate adjustments being allowed for any model year differences or shall accept return of the vehicle from the consumer and refund to the consumer the full purchase price or to the lessee, in the case of leased vehicles, as provided in paragraph IX.

In those instances in which a refund is tendered, the manufacturer shall refund to the consumer the full purchase price as indicated in the purchase contract and all credits and allowances for any trade-in or down payment, license fees, finance charges, credit charges, registration fees, and any similar charges and incidental and consequential damages or, in the case of leased vehicles, as provided in paragraph IX.

Refunds shall be made to the consumer and lienholder, if any, as their interests may appear, or to the motor vehicle lessor and lessee as provided in paragraph IX. A reasonable allowance for use shall be that amount directly attributable to use by the consumer prior to the first repair attempt and shall be calculated by multiplying the full purchase price of the vehicle by a fraction having as its denominator 100,000, or for a motorcycle or OHRV with an engine size of 250 cubic centimeters or smaller 20,000, or for a motorcycle or OHRV with an engine size greater than 250 cubic centimeters 40,000, and having as its numerator the number of miles that the vehicle traveled prior to the first attempt at repairing the vehicle.
Essentially, they would pay off your loan, and refund all of your payments thus far plus down payment, any taxes and fees, less a small usage fee (yours would be particularly small since the car is so new).

Essentially it'll be (purchase price * 1,800/100,000).

They also have to pay you back for any incidentals such as rental cars or other costs incurred by you.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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Note: I am currently the local lemon law expert.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by webguy330i
Ah but you would get money back.

http://autopedia.com/html/LemonLaw/NH_lemonlaw2.html



Essentially, they would pay off your loan, and refund all of your payments thus far plus down payment, any taxes and fees, less a small usage fee (yours would be particularly small since the car is so new).

Essentially it'll be (purchase price * 1,800/100,000).

They also have to pay you back for any incidentals such as rental cars or other costs incurred by you.
Interesting, well, lets hope they fix it correctly this time....
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by omniphil
Interesting, well, lets hope they fix it correctly this time....
Good luck with all that.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by webguy330i
Good luck with all that.
I got to think positive, we do like the car, but if it keeps failing we're gonna have to replace it with something else, we really needed the AWD this winter and it kept failing, it was fairly annoying... I didnt put snow tires on my srt-4 to save $$$ so we depended on the evo for snow use...

And if it does go back, what do we replace it with? another srt-4? wrx? My girl drives it and she wants a performance car that isnt too spendy, the evo,wrx, srt4 are the only cars that come to mind...

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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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I hope it gets fixed Phil. A lemon law may sound like a quick fix on paper but it's actually a nightmare for all parties involved. Ask anybody who's been through the process (Steiner raises hand).

BTW...I picked up my '05 RS last night. Woo hooo!
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
I hope it gets fixed Phil. A lemon law may sound like a quick fix on paper but it's actually a nightmare for all parties involved. Ask anybody who's been through the process (Steiner raises hand).

BTW...I picked up my '05 RS last night. Woo hooo!
Sweet, did u make sure the diffs have fluid?
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Sweet, did u make sure the diffs have fluid?
Hehe. You're joking, right? I have a vision in my head of somebody laying underneath the car pulling out and checking a miniature dip stick.

I bought the car from one of the best Evo dealers around. It's their specialty. They're building a performance shop, theatre, mod consulting dep't and have already purchased a $$$$$ AWD dyno. It's the real expensive kind. They prepped my car the right way and did all the little things. Such a nice feeling to deal with a cool dealership after my experiences from hell with Hayward Dodge.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Hehe. You're joking, right? I have a vision in my head of somebody laying underneath the car pulling out and checking a miniature dip stick.

I bought the car from one of the best Evo dealers around. It's their specialty. They're building a performance shop, theatre, mod consulting dep't and have already purchased a $$$$$ AWD dyno. It's the real expensive kind. They prepped my car the right way and did all the little things. Such a nice feeling to deal with a cool dealership after my experiences from hell with Hayward Dodge.
Well, i guess it all comes to where u live, me, I live near one of the best dodge dealers around, actually one of the best dealers period, and the mitsu delear near me while very helpful, is not very familiar with evo's

And no, i wasnt kidding about the fluids, there have been a few cases already of diffs coming unfilled for whatever reason. When we first brought ours in for service, they looked at the rear diff and came back and ask if we had changed the fluid? I'm assuming because there was none. Thats when they ordered a new diff for us.

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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Steiner, Dude I want your dealership, sounds pimp.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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hey what dealer are you talking about?
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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When I first got my MR I also noticed a noise coming from the rear diff only when turning at very slow speeds. I figured that it was the rear diff clutches just breaking in. The noise at 800 miles was still there so I took it to work and checked the rear diff fluid level. The fluid was low about 4 ounces, not much at all so I added some LSD additive that we have here. That was the end of that, problem solved and never again did I hear any weird noises. Maybe you should look into that. The proper way of adding fluid to the rear diff is to take a fresh quart of gear oil and drain a bit out of it and then mix a small 7 ounce bottle of LSD additive in it. Then you can fill the diff. Some techs first fill the diff with gear oil and then add some additive, problem with that is that the rear diff only takes 1/2 quart. Good luck
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by omniphil
Have them do it, meaning replace the diff again? I guess if the wrong fluid was in for several thousand miles I would assume damage was done and I dont want that diff.
Driving around with the clutch packs fully engaged without friction modifier undoubtedly shortened the life of the clutch packs. It's impossible that it hasn't. How much it has is the question. I would tell them I need a new rear diff, but this time actually do their ****ing jobs and get it right this time.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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good idea superz, but mitsu makes an oil just for the evo, p/n is 3775610. you dont have to add any additives unless you have the ratcheting noise from the diff.
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