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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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wow, just wow. is this with the new turbo with 10.5 housing, or the old 2003 style? could this also not make a difference?
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Will you now dyno the car on pump to see where the HP/TQ figures are now??
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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wow, just wow. is this with the new turbo with 10.5 housing, or the old 2003 style? could this also not make a difference?

2003 style
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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i think that is even more incredible. I thinkm someone should do more testing of cam gear settings with 272's on the stock turbo. Do you think these numbers in the high 300's cloe to 400 could be achived using the XEDE instead of the AEM setup?
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo_doer
Will you now dyno the car on pump to see where the HP/TQ figures are now??
That was the first thing we did, was around 368hp 378tq.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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On a somewhat related subject, hopefully not too far off topic... do you need to screw with the timing sync in the EMS when making the cam gear adjustments?
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Very good work man, you just made history here on EvoM. Thanks for all the research and great details. I'll have to try this out now!!!
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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On a somewhat related subject, hopefully not too far off topic... do you need to screw with the timing sync in the EMS when making the cam gear adjustments?
Nope. The home signal comes from the crank angle sensor.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 05:25 AM
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how much boost on pump gas....how much on race?
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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Holy Crap......great work
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 05:50 AM
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A/F ratio please
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Nope. The home signal comes from the crank angle sensor.
The crank signal alone does not tell the ECU where in the combustion cycle each cylinder is. It can only tell you the position of each piston. A combination of crank angle and cam angle is used to determine when to spray fuel and when to fire the ignition.

The reason I ask is that AEM says the only time you need to re-sync the timing on the Evo is when you make adjustments to the cam timing with cam gears. Somehow the factory ECU can compansate for shifts in cam timing. I'm not sure why the AEM EMS would need to be re-sync'd unless they're referring to radical timing changes versus the 3-4 degrees being dialed in.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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The crank signal alone does not tell the ECU where in the combustion cycle each cylinder is. It can only tell you the position of each piston. A combination of crank angle and cam angle is used to determine when to spray fuel and when to fire the ignition.

The reason I ask is that AEM says the only time you need to re-sync the timing on the Evo is when you make adjustments to the cam timing with cam gears. Somehow the factory ECU can compansate for shifts in cam timing. I'm not sure why the AEM EMS would need to be re-sync'd unless they're referring to radical timing changes versus the 3-4 degrees being dialed in.
I wondered the same thing so I checked it on a couple of runs. The cam angle sensor is on the exhaust cam and I only moved it -+2 degrees. Lucky thing is that the aem runs of the crank pickup for timing and uses the Cam as a refrence. So any changes I made in the cam timing didn't change the actual timing to TDC. However if you move the cam timing more than I think 5-8 degrees The Aem will throw a timing sync Erro.

the Cam angle sensor indicates which bank of cylinders are firing, 1,4 or 2,3. The cam angle sensor is significant for injector phasing I believe, but not the ignition timing, at least not with waste-spark and 2 ignition trigger outputs.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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Excellent! Thanks for the info. I had been shying away from cam gears for a number of issues, one of them being any potential hassle with timing the EMS.
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I wondered the same thing so I checked it on a couple of runs. The cam angle sensor is on the exhaust cam and I only moved it -+2 degrees. Lucky thing is that the aem runs of the crank pickup for timing and uses the Cam as a refrence. So any changes I made in the cam timing didn't change the actual timing to TDC. However if you move the cam timing more than I think 5-8 degrees The Aem will throw a timing sync Erro.

the Cam angle sensor indicates which bank of cylinders are firing, 1,4 or 2,3. The cam angle sensor is significant for injector phasing I believe, but not the ignition timing, at least not with waste-spark and 2 ignition trigger outputs.
Thank you.
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