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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Yeah I would like to see a log also. I am sick of people talking this and that about getting full boost by 3500 and then when they look at a data log it's more like 4500. I can hit 22psi in 4th by 4000 and in 5th even sooner but in 3rd I don't get it till 4400. I guess I still have some problems to work out.
Nope you are just about right on for spool, and as for torque honestly the bigger turbos don't put out the torque as easy as the stocker just plain and simple. It will take some time to fine tune your timing to get your torque back up but it is much harder than the stock turbo so don't sweat it right now it just takes time. Some of people on here don't realize this so they are speaking from one side.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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Thanks GTEVO. Sometime I wonder why I even post on here with all the haters then someone like you chimes in and then I remember. People seem to forget that this forum is all about getting help and info and it seems to always turn into a flame war started by some hater who probably doesn't even have an evo.



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Nope you are just about right on for spool, and as for torque honestly the bigger turbos don't put out the torque as easy as the stocker just plain and simple. It will take some time to fine tune your timing to get your torque back up but it is much harder than the stock turbo so don't sweat it right now it just takes time. Some of people on here don't realize this so they are speaking from one side.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dsm95hybrid
It appears super laggy with peak HP near redline and low tq. Not hating, just calling it as I see it. It may just be normal for that turbo. The SS manifold would have looked so much better either left alone or jethot coated in the silver finish. You ought to play with your gear settings to see if you could improve that curve some.

Keep in mind that Aerocomp also just recalibrate their dyno higher in between your visits which will skew your comparison numbers some also.
lag is way overexagerated, people who never took a ride in a big turbo car think that big turbos are laggy and that cars equipped with them can not be daily driven, that is total bull****, i know because i have a gt35, the car drives almost the same as stock up to like 3000 rpm then boost comes on very smoothly by 4000/4400 rpm you better hang the hell on because you just rocket forward. oh yeah and i drive the car daily and only running 15 psi until i get tuned right.

in this case, it is a 3076 i bet you with all this power you won't even notice the lag.

congratulations on these number man, the car must be a scary beast, makes me look forward to get mine tuned, i can't wait.

by the way, how is drivebality with the aem? like idle, cold start, driving in trafic and all.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by strongbear0
Thanks GTEVO. Sometime I wonder why I even post on here with all the haters then someone like you chimes in and then I remember. People seem to forget that this forum is all about getting help and info and it seems to always turn into a flame war started by some hater who probably doesn't even have an evo.

Np man
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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And you are on the stock turbo. You should make more torque than me. I hate it when ignorant people chime in wtihout knowing what they are talking about.
How da hell should I make more torque than you? I have a friend with that turbo kit I believe his dyno read 382tq and 410HP so WTF u talking about? Im not even talking shyt... Im just saying that is extremely low compared to a couple other evos that i have seen with similar set up. IGNORANT? ha.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sylvester31
lag is way overexagerated, people who never took a ride in a big turbo car think that big turbos are laggy and that cars equipped with them can not be daily driven, that is total bull****, i know because i have a gt35, the car drives almost the same as stock up to like 3000 rpm then boost comes on very smoothly by 4000/4400 rpm you better hang the hell on because you just rocket forward. oh yeah and i drive the car daily and only running 15 psi until i get tuned right.

in this case, it is a 3076 i bet you with all this power you won't even notice the lag.

congratulations on these number man, the car must be a scary beast, makes me look forward to get mine tuned, i can't wait.

by the way, how is drivebality with the aem? like idle, cold start, driving in trafic and all.
thanks.
The aem is wonderful when set up right. It take a couple extra cranks to start but if you wait for the fule pump to prime it's not bad at all. Driving in traffic is the same as before. I have to stay in the car for a minute in the morning when first cranking to keep the rpm's up but that's becuase we have not messed with the warmup enrichment yet.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DCSilvrEvo
How da hell should I make more torque than you? I have a friend with that turbo kit I believe his dyno read 382tq and 410HP so WTF u talking about? Im not even talking shyt... Im just saying that is extremely low compared to a couple other evos that i have seen with similar set up. IGNORANT? ha.
Get screwed hater. If you would have took the time to read you would know that I am not done tuning and I am trying to get more out of it. But I really don't care what you think. Your 12.5 will look like shyte once I hit the track.

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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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hey strongbear nice numbers, im sure with more tuning you can bring that torque number up. turbo looks nice and big.

how is your low/mid end power with that turbo? i know the top end must be killer but i was wondering about the streetability of it.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistasparkle
hey strongbear nice numbers, im sure with more tuning you can bring that torque number up. turbo looks nice and big.

how is your low/mid end power with that turbo? i know the top end must be killer but i was wondering about the streetability of it.
Streetability is fine. You can tell it's bigger when cruising but once you are on it you can't tell a difference.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by strongbear0
The aem is wonderful when set up right. It take a couple extra cranks to start but if you wait for the fule pump to prime it's not bad at all. Driving in traffic is the same as before. I have to stay in the car for a minute in the morning when first cranking to keep the rpm's up but that's becuase we have not messed with the warmup enrichment yet.
Thanks man, i appreciate the quick answer . i think the aem is next on my list.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by strongbear0
Get screwed hater. If you would have took the time to read you would know that I am not done tuning and I am trying to get more out of it. But I really don't care what you think. You 12.5 will look like shyte once I hit the track.
DUDE CHILL THE FCK OUT!!!!!!!!!!! ALL I said was that your torque was really low stop acting like a BEYOTCH!!!! God lord. Im not hatin on your dyno. I dont give a shyt man! Just giving you my input on what ive seen on other cars. LORD BLESS HIM!


IM OUT!
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DCSilvrEvo
How da hell should I make more torque than you? I have a friend with that turbo kit I believe his dyno read 382tq and 410HP so WTF u talking about? Im not even talking shyt... Im just saying that is extremely low compared to a couple other evos that i have seen with similar set up. IGNORANT? ha.

Here is the deal, with the stock turbo you are at full spool and feeling it by 3400-3600 rpms and making good power. Then by 4500-5500 rpms the turbo is breathing hard and efficient basically being put to its use and in this area is the 4g63's prime for making torque so the combination they go hand and hand together and it is easier to tune to this as well via standalone. With a big turbo such as the GT3076 my experience has been that once you spool up and you are getting usable power you have to tune very precisly becuase you are at 4500 rpms and by 4500 -5500 the 4g63 is getting around peak torque again and with a bigger turbo detonation will occur much easier because of the efficency just isn't quite as good yet and you are moving more volume at the same psi/load, after that area you can ramp timing up like a mountian and make big power and the stocker just can't keep up. Basically you give one for the other in some cases but you can tune most if not all of this out on the lower rpm levels but it takes time and experience to be safe. It sounds like strongbears tuner wants to be safe and see how the car reacts long term so they can be sure things are holding up as they should be, just sounds like a good tuner to me. Hope this helps clear up the misunderstanding.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DCSilvrEvo
How da hell should I make more torque than you? I have a friend with that turbo kit I believe his dyno read 382tq and 410HP so WTF u talking about? Im not even talking shyt... Im just saying that is extremely low compared to a couple other evos that i have seen with similar set up. IGNORANT? ha.
Yeah I bet they were running race gas too. That would explain the higher torque numbers. More timing. I am only on pump gas for now.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Here is the deal, with the stock turbo you are at full spool and feeling it by 3400-3600 rpms and making good power. Then by 4500-5500 rpms the turbo is breathing hard and efficient basically being put to its use and in this area is the 4g63's prime for making torque so the combination they go hand and hand together and it is easier to tune to this as well via standalone. With a big turbo such as the GT3076 my experience has been that once you spool up and you are getting usable power you have to tune very precisly becuase you are at 4500 rpms and by 4500 -5500 the 4g63 is getting around peak torque again and with a bigger turbo detonation will occur much easier because of the efficency just isn't quite as good yet and you are moving more volume at the same psi/load, after that area you can ramp timing up like a mountian and make big power and the stocker just can't keep up. Basically you give one for the other in some cases but you can tune most if not all of this out on the lower rpm levels but it takes time and experience to be safe. It sounds like strongbears tuner wants to be safe and see how the car reacts long term so they can be sure things are holding up as they should be, just sounds like a good tuner to me. Hope this helps clear up the misunderstanding.
Right... I got a speech from a tuner about that b4, BUT he never mentioned that the car would see such a low torque band on it. But I understood what you were saying. Thanks for explaining again.

Problem was that this guy was taking what i said as if I was HATING ON HIM. I dont have time for that at all. I never spoke shyt about his car all i said was that he had a extremely low torque band and then he went off... NOT Cool. But thats GTVEVO
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by strongbear0
Yeah I bet they were running race gas too. That would explain the higher torque numbers. More timing. I am only on pump gas for now.
No race gas just a REALLY REALLY Long tune. 4hrs i think.
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