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Old May 4, 2005 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Knyght
I guess that means you aren't running 11's by May?
RIGHT!!!!!!!! I will still press to hit 11.9 by the end of may.(DONT KNOW HOW DA FCK IM GOING TO THAT)
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Old May 4, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DCSilvrEvo
Not really fraud simply by the fact that they give you warranty on it. If they didnt want to give warranty then they would give that 12month 12000mile stuff like they do on the clutch. But ah well Manufactor shouldnt of made that part so weak. CLutch is one but the TRANSFER CASE number 2 why?
Look, dragracing an AWD car with sticky tires puts a tremendous amount of wear on the transfer case and half-shafts. This is clearly beyond the realm of "normal" use. Your warranty is designed to protect you against defects in manufacturing that arise in normal use. In fact, the warranty specifically states that parts damaged by accelerated wear from racing will not be covered.

If you modded your car and beat the crap out of the drivetrain by repeatedly launching the thing on the dragstrip there's no way in hell you can expect the manufacturer to cover that. You should have factored in the cost of replacing half-shafts and occasionally re-building the t-case before you started off on your quest for an 11 second Evo.

And, for the record, you've modded the car, raced it and now you plan to strip off all your mods and try to return the car to stock so you can stick your hands in your pockets and say, "Honestly, I don't know what went wrong. I was just driving the car to church when all of a sudden the t-case blew up." That's the definition of a fraudulent warrenty claim.

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Old May 4, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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Oh well, I say take it there to find out exactly what went wrong with it. If they offer to fix it under warranty, go ahead. If not, get the **** outta there cause they will rape you for every penny you got.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bigjhoney
Oh well, I say take it there to find out exactly what went wrong with it. If they offer to fix it under warranty, go ahead. If not, get the **** outta there cause they will rape you for every penny you got.
Anyway, it sounds like it's just a broken half-shaft so it's probably not going to be a big deal.

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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Kayaalp
Look, dragracing an AWD car with sticky tires puts a tremendous amount of wear on the transfer case and half-shafts. This is clearly beyond the realm of "normal" use. Your warranty is designed to protect you against defects in manufacturing that arise in normal use. In fact, the warranty specifically states that parts damaged by accelerated wear from racing will not be covered.

If you modded your car and beat the crap out of the drivetrain by repeatedly launching the thing on the dragstrip there's no way in hell you can expect the manufacturer to cover that. You should have factored in the cost of replacing half-shafts and occasionally re-building the t-case before you started off on your quest for an 11 second Evo.

And, for the record, you've modded the car, raced it and now you plan to strip off all your mods and try to return the car to stock so you can stick your hands in your pockets and say, "Honestly, I don't know what went wrong. I was just driving the car to church when all of a sudden the t-case blew up." That's the definition of a fraudulent warrenty claim.
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I gotta agree here. There are reasons that manufacturers don't want to honor warrantys on modded cars, because most people that mod them will drive them to the limit at some point during the car's life.

Launching at 5-5500 is not exactly in the realm of normal useage, you're lucky not to glaze the clutch. You may have broken a half-shaft, but it's unlikely that you broke the transfer case. If mitsu honors the warranty, more power to you, but don't come back here and make a post complaining if they don't, because I'll tell you, you'll get torched.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DCSilvrEvo
Does this mean they might get me a 05 LSD?!
FWIW, the '05 LSD won't fit since the t-case is different in your '03. The LSD front diff from an '04 RS would fit, but then you might run into ABS issues. Anyway, even if Mitsu does agree to cover the work under warranty, they will just go by your VIN and get whatever part was stock on the car. If anything, you'll end up with another '03 diff.

BTW, I'm sure you know that if you want the t-case on the '03 to last, you've got to use a DL-5 gear oil (preferably Mitsu's SAE-90 DiaQueen LSD Gear Lube) and flush it every 5K miles. This is especially important if you're dragracing or tracking the car.

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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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You aint getting **** from the dealership except a nice large bill, and since when is it recommended to change t case fluid every 5k miles?
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Slappy
You aint getting **** from the dealership except a nice large bill, and since when is it recommended to change t case fluid every 5k miles?
There are many, many threads on this. The '03 transfer cases with open front diffs are notoriously prone to failure. You have to use the right fluid and it needs to be flushed regularly. Once every 15K miles might be OK for pure street use, but guys who track their Evos or especially guys dragracing them should flush them evey 5K if you want them to last.

My friends in Europe with older Evos flush both the t-case and rear diff (remember, they've got AYC rear diffs) every 5K miles as part of their routine maintenance.

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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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I couldn't agree more. You have to pay to play. If anyone truly believes that modding the car, doing 5500 RPM clutch dumps and drag racing the car SHOULD still be covered under any warranty--you're dreaming. The real problem I see here is that this kind of stuff is what causes other Evo owners to experience problems in some of the borderline warranty issues they have and causes Mitsu to be sketpical about many warranty claims. In other words it's guys like you doing things like this and then taking it in for warranty claims that are causing other Evo owners to suffer.

Take responsibility for your actions and pay for the damage.



Originally Posted by Kayaalp
Look, dragracing an AWD car with sticky tires puts a tremendous amount of wear on the transfer case and half-shafts. This is clearly beyond the realm of "normal" use. Your warranty is designed to protect you against defects in manufacturing that arise in normal use. In fact, the warranty specifically states that parts damaged by accelerated wear from racing will not be covered.

If you modded your car and beat the crap out of the drivetrain by repeatedly launching the thing on the dragstrip there's no way in hell you can expect the manufacturer to cover that. You should have factored in the cost of replacing half-shafts and occasionally re-building the t-case before you started off on your quest for an 11 second Evo.

And, for the record, you've modded the car, raced it and now you plan to strip off all your mods and try to return the car to stock so you can stick your hands in your pockets and say, "Honestly, I don't know what went wrong. I was just driving the car to church when all of a sudden the t-case blew up." That's the definition of a fraudulent warrenty claim.

Emre
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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im interested to see what is going to happen. but good luck if that helps, and keep us posted on the dealership situation
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Knyght
I guess that means you aren't running 11's by May?
that's what I was thinking, but I hope it all works out for you
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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It is unlikely that you will get a free repair since you broke your drive train and most techs are astute enough to diferentiate this kind of faliure from a maufacturing defect. I think all you did was blow a CV but if it's the front def. on the plus side, you can upgrade to a limited slip unit.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Wicked
+1

make sure to make some drifting vid's first
+1
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Old May 4, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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I seriously hope that Mitsu deny's your Warrantee claim. One of the reasons that it is important for them to weed out cases of abuse is so they can continue to offer the car at a low price point. If they have to cover repair costs for every idiot who abuses thier car that way, you can bet the price of the car will increase dramatically. Think about it, Mitsu is not making tons of money on EVO's. Sure they make a small profit, but it's probably just enough to make it worth thier while to manufacture the car. Once you start eating into that profit, they won't be able to manufacture the car at the same price point. If this happens they may decide to pull the plug on building Evo's for the US altogether.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by HorinayHotiness
If this happens they may decide to pull the plug on building Evo's for the US altogether.
I'm not sure that really would be a bad thing... our cars then gain value and are even rarer years from now. Yes getting parts and god forbid something happens that we cant drive our evo's then it wouldn't be a good thing they stopped building them.
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