Hopefully Dynoflash ,TT , or an ECUTEK Rep will chime in and answer my questions.
If these flashes can control the stock solenoid why buy an MBC or EBC? I mean I have already purchsed the Hallman Pro RX Evolution, but why cut all those lines if I dont have to?

Is the flash as rock steady as the MBC?

 

even hallman mbc tapers down a little . nothing holds perfect!
just install tat thing, and i am sure u will like it.

 

thats it? only one person? no one has an opinion on boost controllled flashes vs. the standard MBC/EBC?

thanks for your response Yesevo, but my theory is that if flashes can control just aswell as a MBC (with equal taper) why cut all those factory lines?

 

i was thinking the samething like u.
but i love to work on the car and wanted to learn something about mbc.
and it s good to have one if u wanna use alky kit in the future! u never know!

 

I saw Al perform this flash on the first car that was tested and I personally do not see any reason to install the Halman. That boost control flash works great. I woiuld only install the MBC if you forsee changing yourm boost. It won't hurt the car to put it on.

 

The flash is the definition of rock steady boost, because it's the ECU that causes the taper to begin with. With a flash, you control this taper, so it can be removed completely while boost is set where you want.

The problem with this in place of an MBC/EBC is that you can't change it at will. I guess some people would like to have their boost set at one place for all of eternity, but I prefer to be able to change mine on a daily basis, if needed. Whether it be a new mod that changes my profile, or a change in temp/humidity, or a race event that requires more (drag strip) or less (auto-x) boost, or if I'm tossing in race gas and REALLY want to crank the boost, etc.

It's all in your preference, but if you don't want any direct control over your boost, then the flash should be great.

 

Great post!

At this point I am trying to keep as lightly modded as possible, you know? I am still under warranty and dot wanna cut a bunch of lines , etc. I dont really drag the car nor do I track it. I personally am one of those guys who drives around in a fast car stoplight to stoplight

I bought the hallman evo rx and will keep it and proly install it in the future maybe just not at this point.


thanks for all of you help everybody

 

The new "V3" flash that I developed mainatins amazingly steady boost - its brand new and to the best of my info NO OTHER tuner has this capability on the market. Other tuners use boost pill modifications to obtain similar results.

Ecutek is very similar to my flash but works in a different way.

 

Hey Al, am I correct in thinking that the EcuTek Flash opens up the entire Ecu for programming much like a standalone? I know it still use the MAF but am I correct in thinking this way?

 

You shouldn't have to cut lines if you use the turbo nipple as your source. I also am modding my car in a manner that should allow me to maintain my warranty, and one of those mods is a Hallman Pro (regular, not cockpit). Whenever I need to go to the dealer, I will just put back on the stock boost lines and remove my S-AFC w/Fields harness. That leaves me with just a cat-back and K&N filter, which are not problems.

I would be worried about doing a flash, because they can detect them now.

 

most of the taper, in my experience, was because of the exhaust. With a hallman MBC, I would still taper 2-3 psi after 5500. After I put on my 3" turboback I was able to hold 20psi nearly rock solid. I did not notice a difference in holding boost with the mail-in flash that I got.

If you ever plan on going above 20.5, get the hallman.

 

More features are in works on the Ecutek which will give it greater ability much like the Subaru Ecutek which is just like a stand alone only better !

At this point it just has limited functions - but they assure me that more are in teh works - (apatainetly anticipating !)

 

thats exactly what I do before I go in for scheduled maintenance (less the SAFC) I can remove the MBC and replace the stock boost solenoid lines now in less then 15 minutes. I also keep them in the glove box "just in case" something happens and I need to get a warrenty tow to the dealer.

I was susposed to get a flash but I had a horrible experience with the "tuner" so I settled for just a MBC, now I'm just waiting till my warranty is up to go standalone.

 

How do you swap in 15 minutes? Do you go in from the top or the bottom?

Just curious...

 

The Dynoflash with boost control is nice but only if you want to run 20.5psi forever. I am running 22psi and Im pretty sure Im making more power with 22 than 20.5

However if your not a mod freak like myself and you just have a couple mods, I think its a great way to keep the car near stock! One LESS mod!