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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Question on camshafts...

Ok im running on the stock 16G and plan to stay on it unless i plan to the 6.5TME which is basically the same when it comes to deciding on cams.

i wanna go with a mix of 272/264s with HKS maybe, but i heard theres better cams. the main reason im leaning towards HKS is because people sell these for like 400 barely used which i can work around. so what im wondering, which combo should i go for if i wanna have a good daily driver, more immediate torque and increased top end (tuned by dynoflash) and basically pull harder to redline. Also, how bad do camshafts affect gas mileage?
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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bump because I am looking for the same answers
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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SEARCH BUTTON DOES WONDERS!
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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gsc all the way. you can get gsc 272/264 with arp headstuds for $580 shipped.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Yea, i don't mean to be a jerk, but u really need to search......assloads of threads that answer all of these questions.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by scherejs
gsc all the way. you can get gsc 272/264 with arp headstuds for $580 shipped.
That is a good price. Too late for me though. I have the HKS 272/272 with a Dynoflash. I have actually noticed better gas mileage than before. Around 240 miles a tank compared to 200 miles. (11 gallons of local driving) I have my cams set to -4/-1.5, and it pulls all the way to redline, 7800rpms. The idle is the quietest of all of the Evos I have met with similar setups, except with less separation.

You will find alot of good information with the search tool. But from what I have read for low end response the 264/264 or 264/272 is a good choice.

Happy hunting.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RalliArtEvoVIII
Also, how bad do camshafts affect gas mileage?
Don't listen to these punks, there is a certain segment of the population that just loves to hear themselves b!tch...Your question is valid, as information evolves and experience extracting horsepower along with it...New people join all the time and it is good to cover this topic regularly.

I would like to know the pros and cons of cams and if supporting mods would be necessary, or if supporting mods would create a multiplier effect for the expected hp gains of simple bolt-ons (for instance, would a TBE stimulate even greater power with cams).

Are cam-gears alone capable of hp gains?
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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Don't listen to these punks, there is a certain segment of the population that just loves to hear themselves b!tch...Your question is valid, as information evolves and experience extracting horsepower along with it...New people join all the time and it is good to cover this topic regularly.

I would like to know the pros and cons of cams and if supporting mods would be necessary, or if supporting mods would create a multiplier effect for the expected hp gains of simple bolt-ons (for instance, would a TBE stimulate even greater power with cams).

Are cam-gears alone capable of hp gains?
LOL, im not bit****, im only recommending that he search a little because actually these same topics have been covered multiple times.

Well as far as pros and cons, i dont even see any cons except that u void your warranty! Pros would be increased mid-range and high-end torque, and better overall acceleration. I would definitely recommend a TB exhaust (because of the increase in exhaust gases), fuel pump, and ARP headstuds (cheap insurance), manual bost controller (in cause u wanna turn up the boost). Any type of engine mod will help add HP because there are many restrictions from the factory, and a forced induction engine will attain more HP than a N/A car. Also, the EVO definitely responds to basic bolt-on parts.

As for cam gears, i definitely recommend them in u get any combination of cams, the exception being 264/264. Cam gears will help u smooth out ur idle that gets a little messed up by the higher duration cams and also allows u to correctly set a good strong powerband that will take advantage of the cams. Hope this helps!
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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That is a good price. Too late for me though. I have the HKS 272/272 with a Dynoflash. I have actually noticed better gas mileage than before. Around 240 miles a tank compared to 200 miles. (11 gallons of local driving) I have my cams set to -4/-1.5, and it pulls all the way to redline, 7800rpms. The idle is the quietest of all of the Evos I have met with similar setups, except with less separation.

You will find alot of good information with the search tool. But from what I have read for low end response the 264/264 or 264/272 is a good choice.

Happy hunting.
dude, I wanna do some 3rd gear pulls on 28 with you to see what the difference is in the gear settings. Mine, as you know are 0,0. By the way, I'm getting significantly better gas mileage as well after the tune. I went like 175 miles and the tank was still at 1/2 mark
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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It is no secret that cams require correct supporting mods. Experimenting is expensive but fun if you can afford to make mistakes. Your going with cams becasue of cost points to your trying to save money. Why not ask Al since you are going to have him do the tunning? Dave leans on the 280w while Shiv seems to like the 264/272 set up. Good luck with your project.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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dude, I wanna do some 3rd gear pulls on 28 with you to see what the difference is in the gear settings. Mine, as you know are 0,0. By the way, I'm getting significantly better gas mileage as well after the tune. I went like 175 miles and the tank was still at 1/2 mark
Hey man if your running zero and zero. are you running dynoflash? And if so hows the idle, not the sound or lopy stuff. im talking about stalling or any other issues like that? I cant decide between 272/264 or 272/272 I want the 272/272 but need to hear coments from a user. thanks man
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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HKS 272/272 + stock cam gears + Buschur Stg 4 + exhaust cut-out + DynoFlash = https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...272+idle+video
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
Don't listen to these punks, there is a certain segment of the population that just loves to hear themselves b!tch...Your question is valid, as information evolves and experience extracting horsepower along with it...New people join all the time and it is good to cover this topic regularly.

I would like to know the pros and cons of cams and if supporting mods would be necessary, or if supporting mods would create a multiplier effect for the expected hp gains of simple bolt-ons (for instance, would a TBE stimulate even greater power with cams).

Are cam-gears alone capable of hp gains?
Of course you disagree you only have 28 posts. These questions have been answered numerous of times and a search would've brought up alot of writeups on cams.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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turboex:

Well, overall it's just fine. Occasionally my rpms dip down to like 300 for like a second but then come back up. When my car is on with the turbo timer, it often does that too... One time (and 1 time only) I was driving with my AC on high and I pushed the clutch in for maybe 5 seconds while I was braking. The idle dropped enough to stall the car, and I didn't realize it until I tried to turn and had no power steering. I quickly clutched again and restarted it, but now I'm just more aware of that possibility. I've also been told that a good grounding kit will help with that?

I'm used to touchy starts with the car, though, as I had a 6-puck clutch in before...

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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ct9a gsr
HKS 272/272 + stock cam gears + Buschur Stg 4 + exhaust cut-out + DynoFlash = https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...272+idle+video
ok 272's are the hotness!!! hey man were you at topspeed when al (dynoflash) stoped by? you name rings a bell
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