Question on camshafts...
Question on camshafts...
Ok im running on the stock 16G and plan to stay on it unless i plan to the 6.5TME which is basically the same when it comes to deciding on cams.
i wanna go with a mix of 272/264s with HKS maybe, but i heard theres better cams. the main reason im leaning towards HKS is because people sell these for like 400 barely used which i can work around. so what im wondering, which combo should i go for if i wanna have a good daily driver, more immediate torque and increased top end (tuned by dynoflash) and basically pull harder to redline. Also, how bad do camshafts affect gas mileage?
i wanna go with a mix of 272/264s with HKS maybe, but i heard theres better cams. the main reason im leaning towards HKS is because people sell these for like 400 barely used which i can work around. so what im wondering, which combo should i go for if i wanna have a good daily driver, more immediate torque and increased top end (tuned by dynoflash) and basically pull harder to redline. Also, how bad do camshafts affect gas mileage?
Originally Posted by scherejs
gsc all the way. you can get gsc 272/264 with arp headstuds for $580 shipped.
You will find alot of good information with the search tool. But from what I have read for low end response the 264/264 or 264/272 is a good choice.
Happy hunting.
Originally Posted by RalliArtEvoVIII
Also, how bad do camshafts affect gas mileage?
I would like to know the pros and cons of cams and if supporting mods would be necessary, or if supporting mods would create a multiplier effect for the expected hp gains of simple bolt-ons (for instance, would a TBE stimulate even greater power with cams).
Are cam-gears alone capable of hp gains?
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Originally Posted by MRinChrist
Don't listen to these punks, there is a certain segment of the population that just loves to hear themselves b!tch...Your question is valid, as information evolves and experience extracting horsepower along with it...New people join all the time and it is good to cover this topic regularly.
I would like to know the pros and cons of cams and if supporting mods would be necessary, or if supporting mods would create a multiplier effect for the expected hp gains of simple bolt-ons (for instance, would a TBE stimulate even greater power with cams).
Are cam-gears alone capable of hp gains?
I would like to know the pros and cons of cams and if supporting mods would be necessary, or if supporting mods would create a multiplier effect for the expected hp gains of simple bolt-ons (for instance, would a TBE stimulate even greater power with cams).
Are cam-gears alone capable of hp gains?
Well as far as pros and cons, i dont even see any cons except that u void your warranty! Pros would be increased mid-range and high-end torque, and better overall acceleration. I would definitely recommend a TB exhaust (because of the increase in exhaust gases), fuel pump, and ARP headstuds (cheap insurance), manual bost controller (in cause u wanna turn up the boost). Any type of engine mod will help add HP because there are many restrictions from the factory, and a forced induction engine will attain more HP than a N/A car. Also, the EVO definitely responds to basic bolt-on parts.
As for cam gears, i definitely recommend them in u get any combination of cams, the exception being 264/264. Cam gears will help u smooth out ur idle that gets a little messed up by the higher duration cams and also allows u to correctly set a good strong powerband that will take advantage of the cams. Hope this helps!
Originally Posted by MadMsheen
That is a good price. Too late for me though. I have the HKS 272/272 with a Dynoflash. I have actually noticed better gas mileage than before. Around 240 miles a tank compared to 200 miles. (11 gallons of local driving) I have my cams set to -4/-1.5, and it pulls all the way to redline, 7800rpms. The idle is the quietest of all of the Evos I have met with similar setups, except with less separation.
You will find alot of good information with the search tool. But from what I have read for low end response the 264/264 or 264/272 is a good choice.
Happy hunting.
You will find alot of good information with the search tool. But from what I have read for low end response the 264/264 or 264/272 is a good choice.
Happy hunting.
It is no secret that cams require correct supporting mods. Experimenting is expensive but fun if you can afford to make mistakes. Your going with cams becasue of cost points to your trying to save money. Why not ask Al since you are going to have him do the tunning? Dave leans on the 280w while Shiv seems to like the 264/272 set up. Good luck with your project.
Originally Posted by SterlingEvo
dude, I wanna do some 3rd gear pulls on 28 with you to see what the difference is in the gear settings. Mine, as you know are 0,0. By the way, I'm getting significantly better gas mileage as well after the tune. I went like 175 miles and the tank was still at 1/2 mark 

HKS 272/272 + stock cam gears + Buschur Stg 4 + exhaust cut-out + DynoFlash = https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...272+idle+video
Originally Posted by MRinChrist
Don't listen to these punks, there is a certain segment of the population that just loves to hear themselves b!tch...Your question is valid, as information evolves and experience extracting horsepower along with it...New people join all the time and it is good to cover this topic regularly.
I would like to know the pros and cons of cams and if supporting mods would be necessary, or if supporting mods would create a multiplier effect for the expected hp gains of simple bolt-ons (for instance, would a TBE stimulate even greater power with cams).
Are cam-gears alone capable of hp gains?
I would like to know the pros and cons of cams and if supporting mods would be necessary, or if supporting mods would create a multiplier effect for the expected hp gains of simple bolt-ons (for instance, would a TBE stimulate even greater power with cams).
Are cam-gears alone capable of hp gains?
turboex:
Well, overall it's just fine. Occasionally my rpms dip down to like 300 for like a second but then come back up. When my car is on with the turbo timer, it often does that too... One time (and 1 time only) I was driving with my AC on high and I pushed the clutch in for maybe 5 seconds while I was braking. The idle dropped enough to stall the car, and I didn't realize it until I tried to turn and had no power steering. I quickly clutched again and restarted it, but now I'm just more aware of that possibility. I've also been told that a good grounding kit will help with that?
I'm used to touchy starts with the car, though, as I had a 6-puck clutch in before...
Well, overall it's just fine. Occasionally my rpms dip down to like 300 for like a second but then come back up. When my car is on with the turbo timer, it often does that too... One time (and 1 time only) I was driving with my AC on high and I pushed the clutch in for maybe 5 seconds while I was braking. The idle dropped enough to stall the car, and I didn't realize it until I tried to turn and had no power steering. I quickly clutched again and restarted it, but now I'm just more aware of that possibility. I've also been told that a good grounding kit will help with that?
I'm used to touchy starts with the car, though, as I had a 6-puck clutch in before...
Last edited by SterlingEvo; Jun 6, 2005 at 11:37 AM.
Originally Posted by ct9a gsr
HKS 272/272 + stock cam gears + Buschur Stg 4 + exhaust cut-out + DynoFlash = https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...272+idle+video


