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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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how to achieve 400WHP on pump gas...

anyone have some input? now mind you all of our dynos are different...all of our weather conditions are different...so is our gas. My question is on CALI **** 91(im gonna trademark that) how can i achieve 400WHEEL HORSE POWER? I dont want NOS, nx i/c sprayer, or alki injection either..so those are out of the picture. ANyone done it? What would be the main mods needed? what boost can you run(safely) ?
Upgraded turbo help any? I have seen people break 400's..but they are running 93, 93/100 mix, ocatne etc. right now my mods are:
Agency power turbo kit 60trim, with their tubular header. all supporting mods;walbro255, 750cc injectors, utec, xs fmic, helix i/c piping, hks 264/264 cams, 3" downpipe, 3" cat-del, 3" catback, arp head studs, power enterprise intake, thats about it. I have seen people make 400+ on this kit..but they are running higher octanes. Much info would help alot! My main goal here is to get a daily driver, run regular 91 octane(so i dont have to mess with trying to find higher octane gas, switching maps etc...(although i will have a map for race gas)and put down 400hp to the wheels...this possible!!??
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by onesicklambo
anyone have some input? now mind you all of our dynos are different...all of our weather conditions are different...so is our gas. My question is on CALI **** 91(im gonna trademark that) how can i achieve 400WHEEL HORSE POWER? I dont want NOS, nx i/c sprayer, or alki injection either..so those are out of the picture. ANyone done it? What would be the main mods needed? what boost can you run(safely) ?
Upgraded turbo help any? I have seen people break 400's..but they are running 93, 93/100 mix, ocatne etc. right now my mods are:
Agency power turbo kit 60trim, with their tubular header. all supporting mods;walbro255, 750cc injectors, utec, xs fmic, helix i/c piping, hks 264/264 cams, 3" downpipe, 3" cat-del, 3" catback, arp head studs, power enterprise intake, thats about it. I have seen people make 400+ on this kit..but they are running higher octanes. Much info would help alot! My main goal here is to get a daily driver, run regular 91 octane(so i dont have to mess with trying to find higher octane gas, switching maps etc...(although i will have a map for race gas)and put down 400hp to the wheels...this possible!!??
To get 400whp on 91oct w/o alky, you will need to upgrade your turbo.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
To get 400whp on 91oct w/o alky, you will need to upgrade your turbo.
i just bought this turbo...its no good???it is a 60trim
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by onesicklambo
i just bought this turbo...its no good???it is a 60trim
It sucks.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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2 words: white rabbit.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
It sucks.
damnit whats wrong with it..and what would you suggest? any other turbo that would bolt up to this header, use the tial wastegate i have and bolt up thethe factory downpipe like this 60 trim does?
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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2 words: white rabbit.
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less power than E60trim

If you can't make 400whp with a T3T4E 60 trim, you certainly aren't going to improve the power by going to a smaller turbo (WR)
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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i use to own a dsm and ran a similar turbo in the car....i ran a 50 trim which was not too bad but my options when deciding was 50 or 60...i chose the 50 since from what people told me and what i read the 60 trim can be quite laggy and supposedly is a "race gas" turbo.......it can make good power just "needs race gas" and can be laggy.....like that one guy said to get 400whp without race gas/alky/nitrous you will need to upgrade turbo...and i would have to agree that the White Rabbit can get you there, good luck...
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLEVO
i use to own a dsm and ran a similar turbo in the car....i ran a 50 trim which was not too bad but my options when deciding was 50 or 60...i chose the 50 since from what people told me and what i read the 60 trim can be quite laggy and supposedly is a "race gas" turbo.......it can make good power just "needs race gas" and can be laggy.....like that one guy said to get 400whp without race gas/alky/nitrous you will need to upgrade turbo...and i would have to agree that the White Rabbit can get you there, good luck...
thanks, and i realize this turbo has some lag, and im trying to make this a 1.4 mile car, thats why i opted for 264 in/ex to get a little more torque, but like ds motorsports said..how can a WR make more hp than mine with all the same mods and a smaller turbo?
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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white rabbit won't get you there on pump gas without alky i don't think.....ESPECIALLY 91 octane.

i would say get an AMS gt30 kit and call it a day.....then you can have ~430whp on pump gas
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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I can't believe someone said white rabbit. Can you say hype? Remember guys he's looking for 400whp on pump. I'd say 35r =)
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Widebandphillip
I can't believe someone said white rabbit. Can you say hype? Remember guys he's looking for 400whp on pump. I'd say 35r =)
Is that bigger...smaller than my t3t4 60trim? does my turbo suck...or what...im gonna go cry now i spent alot of $ for that kit
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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35r is too much...it can be done EASILY with a 30r
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by onesicklambo
Is that bigger...smaller than my t3t4 60trim? does my turbo suck...or what...im gonna go cry now i spent alot of $ for that kit
how much money? i wouldn't buy anything but an AMS or slickmotorsports garrett kit for this car....
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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30r is possible, but i'm an overachiever and i want to blow past 400awhp =)
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