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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Derek888
How heavy is the stock intercooler? I have the Greddy Rspl and it weighs 12 pounds when I put it on a scale. If you are correct on the Nisei's weight, then their IC is not light. I paid 820 for the Greddy Rspl which comes with the lower pipes which I think is a good deal.
3 or 4 pounds maybe? It's pretty light.

I picked mine up directly from the owner of Nisei. He says if you are looking at the selling points of an intercooler, weight is considered an asset. It soaks up heat, so it cuts both ways.

If your air charge is always 20 degrees cooler, then your power output should always be higher.

I've spoken with tuners who love this intercooler and another who questions whether bigger is better.

For me it was this or the AMS and at the time, the AMS was not available so the choice was easy.

I have a hunch most aftermarket intercoolers do a pretty good job for all street applications and the track is the only place where weight vs cooling will make a difference. That being said, if the Nisei and it's competitors are identical in weight, you might as well take the Nisei. If the others are lighter, then look at the application; maybe Nisei for drag racing and highspeed tracks and another IC for technical tight turns.
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DUROEVO
The Nisei is my next mod.....waiting for the piping to be comleted.....if you have any "?'s" on any intercooler or want to know about intercoolers you can contact Rob at myevostore.com or even Nisei enginering.....They have loads of info for anyone...
They used to be pretty active here...hope we can get to see their piping kit soon. Looks good!
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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We must also know that tube and fin intercoolers are generally cheaper too. Interesting to note that the highend HKS and ARC intercoolers are of the bar and plate design.

I thought so also until someone pointed out to me. Some vendors say its bar and plate on their website so to be sure you need to visit HKS website.
http://www.hksusa.com/categories/more.asp?id=1078
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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I thought so also until someone pointed out to me. Some vendors say its bar and plate on their website so to be sure you need to visit HKS website.
http://www.hksusa.com/categories/more.asp?id=1078
Check with your HKS Proshop for more details as I was informed by mine that HKS has both types. The HKS Japan website is alot more informative
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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Check with your HKS Proshop for more details as I was informed by mine that HKS has both types. The HKS Japan website is alot more informative
goto their website and look closely on the enlarged picture. It looks like tube and fin

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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Derek888
I think David Buschur is right on the part where the Nisei fins are too dense which doesnt allow as much airflow to the radiator. I have showed a couple of friends and tuners and they all said the same thing about the airflow issue. Definately someone should test it against the other fmic's.
Actually, both the buschur and the AMS core have more dense internal and external fins than the Nisei. The Buchur has 18fpi count (fins per inch) which Nisei is between 12 and 13fpi. Yesterday I was driving my Evo with the Nisei intercooler is 105 degree weather and the coolant temps were still below the half-way mark.

For those waiting for test results, beleive me we're working on it. We havent been posting much because we've been super busy working on the upcoming Nisei piping kit.

Rob

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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nickracer9
as far as cooling goes my aem logs show the same engine temps before the i/c went in. i was comparing to stock intercooler. I also noticed my intake manifold and piping was barely warm as opposed to the stock i/c's hot to the touch. I believe most of the intercoolers out there are great, but the more surface area the greater the efficiency.
That's correct. With the Nisei FMIC the goal was to create the most efficient intercooler available that offered little to no pressure drop and had no negative effects to coolant temps. In addition, we wanted a core that would generate intake temps as close to ambient as possible. An off the shelf core was unacceptable. We went all the way and had the core specifically designed to our exact specifications. The speccifications were a result of mathematical fomulas (air weight gain, etc.), CAD design, and lots and lots of testing. Believe it or not, the Nisei intercooler has been on my Evo for over a year now.

We noticed in this industry a lot products are compromised because manufactuers design them around the tools they have and what capablities they have. With Nisei products, everything is first designed, then the tools and help are aquired to make that design a reality.

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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by myevostore.com
That's correct. With the Nisei FMIC our goal was to create the most efficient intercooler available that offered little to no pressure drop and had no negative effects to coolant temps. In addition, we wanted a core that would generate intake temps below or no higher than ambient. An off the shelf core was unacceptable. We went all the way and had the core specifically designed to our exact specifications. The speccifications were a result of mathematical fomulas (air weight gain, etc.), CAD design, and lots and lots of testing. Believe it or not, the Nisei intercooler has been on my Evo for over a year now.

We noticed in this industry a lot products are compromised because manufactuers design them around the tools they have and what capablities they have. With Nisei products, everything is first designed, then the tools and help are aquired to make sure we can design it exactly.

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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Thanks Rob for all that input.......
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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I was really thinking about going ams before I read this but now I might have to go with nisei thanks guys
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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u do realise this was as of 2005?
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Holy necro-bump.
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Aby@MIL.SPEC
The nisei fmic is a very tight fit & heavy.

Nice construction & a great warranty.

I needed to remove some material from the crash bar tabs that support the bumper skin, same thing on the bumper skin too.

undertray doesnt fit, unless to cut a lot off.
i have put this FMIC on about 7 cars. a few where 8s and a few where 9s. now the undertray needs work or removal yes but almost every FMIC on the market needs that too.

as for the crash bar i have never removed one or trimmed it to fit this fmic. it always fit good. and i been installing the new comp core 3.7inch

Originally Posted by mspandl
I was really thinking about going ams before I read this but now I might have to go with nisei thanks guys
you can not go wrong with this core. the new comp core is better then the street core which is what you where reading here. there new comp core is sick. if you want mor details on it i can get pretty heavy into it. but you will not be disappointed in this FMIC. IMO it is still one of if not the best on the market.
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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
Now the undertray needs work or removal yes but almost every FMIC on the market needs that too.
Just for the record ours requires no trimming or cutting of the under tray or bumper beam on the 3.5" core. The 4.0" core will fit with the under tray, but it's tight to the crash beam.

Thanks,

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Old Oct 16, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ETS Michael
Just for the record ours requires no trimming or cutting of the under tray or bumper beam on the 3.5" core. The 4.0" core will fit with the under tray, but it's tight to the crash beam.

Thanks,

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notice where i had said ''almost'' which means some do and some dont.
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