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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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2.4 motor help

Does anyone know where to buy a 4g64 block and "adapters" to make it fit in an evo?? Anyone with the 2.4 kit know who actually builds these? Any contact help would be helpful. All I am after now is a block with oil squirts and "adapters" to make it work. I plan on having crower make a crank, rods and pistons. THX-
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Here, I've been doing a lot of research on this very topic. There is only one reason to goto a 2.4 and that is if you are going to run longer rods, other wise with a slight increase in bore size a stroked 2.3 4g63 is the same displacement as a 4g64.

Oil squiters included no-adapters needed.

The is more to the hybrid, as the cam gears and timing belt are different as well. Also, some people have run into head gasket problems.

It is sort of a pain and may not be worth the extra money or time, unless you are pushing major awhp or got big bucks & want a 500rpm rev limit increase.

The two shops above are very well know for their 4g64's. RRE will put in oil squiters and is in CA, Mangus prefers not to use them and has special rod length options and is in Canada.

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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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listen, no offence to people but if you dont know please dont just post up some site that doesnt do it. i am so ticked off about one dealer(I wont mention any names) I have e-mailed several companies and they dont use 4g64 for evos- other cars yes, but not the evo. I dont want a 2.4 stroker, I want the 2.4.......
Man with that attitude who the hell wants to help answer your question . The guys that answered your questions gave you the answers you needed.
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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I'm not really sure who your response is directed to, but both of those companies listed above build and sell the 4g64 hybrid conversion for Evo's

Road Race Servies built one RNR's original 4g64 - (562) 906-0081

www.magnusmotorsports.com is know for the 2.4 conversions and as I stated above has special rod lenght options. As for Marco. (905) 264-1989.

There are plenty of members on this board that want extra displacment for more torque and in aid to spool a turbo. Your not the first guy to think of this. As I stated above, which you might have skipped over, there is no-difference in a 2.4 or a slightly over-bored 2.3 in terms of displacement. IT IS THE SAME. That is why most guys simply get a 2.3, because it's cheaper, easier and you get the same results. A 2.4 will be more expensive, as you need a new or used block.

Again the only benefit of using a 2.4 is to run longer rods.

I'm not sure what else you need.

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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Wooooaaahhh---- I am not trying to offend anyone. If so, I am sorry. No attitude intended here... I know a lot of folks may check out different options, I was hoping to hear from folks or folk that has done it. let me call these shops-
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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You should call and reach the guys @ www.4g63.com first before you make a statement like that. That's RRE's engine building department (RRS). Talk to Robert Garcia he will answer all your questions about the 2.4 and beyond and give you an accurate quote for anything you want to do. After having my 2.0 built there I would not go anywhere else to build motors especially seeing the other 2.4's they built.
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Everybody on here wants a 2.0L that will spin to 9k so that they can't shift. A 2.4L with a closer to factory rev limit will make more usable power and keep the tranny a lot happier. Keep us updated on your progress.
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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last thing before people chop my head off- I have thought about having crower make a crank for the 2.4... any thoughts? if its forged I should be able to rev @8k- even with a 2.7 or 2.8 liter displacement- I know the idle will be rough.....
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Matthew333
last thing before people chop my head off- I have thought about having crower make a crank for the 2.4... any thoughts? if its forged I should be able to rev @8k- even with a 2.7 or 2.8 liter displacement- I know the idle will be rough.....
Crower does make a crank for Evo with a stroke of 102MM. I don't think you can get it much bigger. With a 87MM bore & a 102MM stroke you'll only get a 2426CC of total displacement. Not 2.7 or 2.8 liters of displacment.

Their crank is a billett crank and yes you can spin it to 8K. But you can do the same with a 2.4 with a standard 4g64 block with longer rods, as you will have a better rod ratio.
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Everybody on here wants a 2.0L that will spin to 9k so that they can't shift. A 2.4L with a closer to factory rev limit will make more usable power and keep the tranny a lot happier. Keep us updated on your progress.
Mine shifts fine @ 9k everytime like butter. If you're expecting to rev that high you better have your tranny rebuilt and worked on. Thanks to Jon @ TRE.
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Originally Posted by Big Boost
Here, I've been doing a lot of research on this very topic. There is only one reason to goto a 2.4 and that is if you are going to run longer rods, other wise with a slight increase in bore size a stroked 2.3 4g63 is the same displacement as a 4g64.

Oil squiters included no-adapters needed.

The is more to the hybrid, as the cam gears and timing belt are different as well. Also, some people have run into head gasket problems.

It is sort of a pain and may not be worth the extra money or time, unless you are pushing major awhp or got big bucks & want a 500rpm rev limit increase.

The two shops above are very well know for their 4g64's. RRE will put in oil squiters and is in CA, Mangus prefers not to use them and has special rod length options and is in Canada.

Good luck.
this is what they do. they use the 4g64 block and crank and use standard length 4g63 rods with a set of custom pistons.

all you need to do for the head gasket is get a 4g63 gasket with a 87mm bore and you will be good. cometic makes a good gasket for this set up. as far as timing belt is concerned you just use the 4g64 timing belt along with the 4g64 cam gears.

hope this was some help.
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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from what I understand, crower can "build" a crank to my specs-(@2200) I dont know how much wider, with block clearance issues, I can go. This is one reason I want to start with a bare block-also a slight bore. The height is more, but the blocks are the same width, correct? The only other reason I was going this route is just to "swap" in the new motor- the 4g64 block seems to be cheaper and more available than the "evo" 4g63. I will prob. end up with the crower 2.37 kit. I just wanted more. we'll see.

AGAIN:: sorry if my posts were offensive- did not mean any bad vibes.
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