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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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i remember a few of the jdm kits claiming that they didn't use oem parts. i'm assuming the 4g64 crank is what they were talking about. are there any aftermarket cranks? i'll probably go with the 4g64 ne way but i was just curious.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AWDrift07
yeah i have a lot of questions...
The best advice I can give you is talk to the shop doing the work, as each shop will have different recommendations.

AMS, Buschur, Magnus, Road/Race and others out there will all have different ideas of what they like and work best.

Give them a call and they can provide the best recommendations for you.

In the end, go with who you feel most comfortable with.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Boost
The best advice I can give you is talk to the shop doing the work, as each shop will have different recommendations.

AMS, Buschur, Magnus, Road/Race and others out there will all have different ideas of what they like and work best.

Give them a call and they can provide the best recommendations for you.

In the end, go with who you feel most comfortable with.
I'm gonna try to do all the work myself. SO i will definitely be best friends with whichever company i go with.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Eagle makes an off the shelf rod for the 4g64 crank for use in the 4g63 motor. we use them in our kit. and CP has pistons that are off the shelf for the crank and rods. no need to have someone make you a stroker crank just use the 64 with the two off the shelf part numbers and you too can have the same kit Butcher, AMS and a few others sell.
Thanks Greg i've been eyeing that kit plus t's a good price. Does anyone have this kit?
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1runner
If you do a 2.3, go with the mitsu 4G64 crank, manley or crower rods, and wiesco pistons. That bottomend can take alot.
i've been looking for manley rods because i have heard great things about them. anyone have them and where did you get them... prices?
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Can anyone recommend a good head shop in the chicagoland area. While i'm off the topic, where's an awdyno in chicagoland? i must suck at searching or something cuz i can't find one.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Can anyone recommend a good head shop in the chicagoland area. While i'm off the topic, where's an awdyno in chicagoland? i must suck at searching or something cuz i can't find one.
http://www.forresterracingheads.com/products.html They do all of AMS heads.

Also, I believe the Porche Exchange and GRD have a AWDS in Chicago.

Look under the Midwest Region forum for more info about shops and info in Chicago.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Boost
http://www.forresterracingheads.com/products.html They do all of AMS heads.

Also, I believe the Porche Exchange and GRD have a AWDS in Chicago.

Look under the Midwest Region forum for more info about shops and info in Chicago.
thanks!
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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i've been looking for manley rods because i have heard great things about them. anyone have them and where did you get them... prices?
http://www.slowboyracing.com/shop.php?sid=&cat=1839
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Originally Posted by GregGSC
Eagle makes an off the shelf rod for the 4g64 crank for use in the 4g63 motor. we use them in our kit. and CP has pistons that are off the shelf for the crank and rods. no need to have someone make you a stroker crank just use the 64 with the two off the shelf part numbers and you too can have the same kit Butcher, AMS and a few others sell.
Buschur is using Crower rods and a specially desinged piston with very favorable charateristics for stroker use. He has reported to me 9,000 plus rpms with no ill results. I intend to fully test this storker to the limits of physics.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Buschur is using Crower rods and a specially desinged piston with very favorable charateristics for stroker use. He has reported to me 9,000 plus rpms with no ill results. I intend to fully test this storker to the limits of physics.
Let us know how high you ring it out to, as I am also interested in purchasing the Buschur stroker kit.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Buschur is using Crower rods and a specially desinged piston with very favorable charateristics for stroker use. He has reported to me 9,000 plus rpms with no ill results. I intend to fully test this storker to the limits of physics.
i am also very interested
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Buschur is using Crower rods and a specially desinged piston with very favorable charateristics for stroker use. He has reported to me 9,000 plus rpms with no ill results. I intend to fully test this stroker to the limits of physics.
Al, quick couple of questions for you. At these high of RPMs, how long do you think the motor will last? A entire racing season?

For someone like me that does not want to ever replace the motor again, what do you believe are the limits to a Buschur Built 2.3 Stroker Motor? Wouldn't more that 8000rpms really be pushing it.

Would getting the block/rods/pistons/crank cryoed & the rods shot peened / and pistons and crank coated increase the longevity of the motor?
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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So if I was to get a 4g64 crank what stops me from building my own stroker. Shops like Bushur and AMS, what do they have thats so different? Could I just get a 4g64 crank and pick which ever rods and pistons i want and assemble it?
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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Al, quick couple of questions for you. At these high of RPMs, how long do you think the motor will last? A entire racing season?

For someone like me that does not want to ever replace the motor again, what do you believe are the limits to a Buschur Built 2.3 Stroker Motor? Wouldn't more that 8000rpms really be pushing it.

Would getting the block/rods/pistons/crank cryoed & the rods shot peened / and pistons and crank coated increase the longevity of the motor?
I will ask the master himself to come on here and respond
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