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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 05:02 AM
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thread from the dead!

since you brought it back, i have a question for Dave, you stated earlier you used to use eagle rods, yet in a different thread recently you said you werent a fan of the eagles and now run crower's if im not mistaken? Do you still use eagles or have u ditched them for crower?
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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from page 4, this is an very freaking old thread.

Robogast, where did you get the quote and how old is it from GregGSC?

I am asking because of how the db spelled my name AND his incorrect information.

First off we do not use any Eagle rods and we do not use CP pistons. So his advise is incorrect and misleading.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
This is what I see as far as 2.2 and 2.3 kits. It is

I use only heavy duty billet rods in our stroker kits, I really like the Eagle rods and use them in the 2.0's but for the stroker I won't use them, too much stress at high RPM's. Using the Crower rod gives me a little more piece of mind and adds quite a bit to the cost of us doing the kit.

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sorry i was refering to what was said above, just thought i read else where you dont use eagles in any motors including 2L or are the eagles ok for standard stroke?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Check the date on the post, it's "old". I use two brands of rods now, Crower and Groden, nothing else, end of story no exceptions.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kcevo
That is definatley an option and a good one at that, but his question is what is the difference between them. Some people might want something a little different than the 4G64's 100mm crank.

This is an old thread but anyway - most newer kits use a Forged crank instead of a 4G64 crank...

Eagle make 100mm Forged crank and so does Cosworth...

The benefit of this I would think is that a Forged Crank would be safer to Rev higher like arround 9000rpm

Most guys who have 4G64 cranks believe that for saftey sake you shouldn't rev it to more than 8000rpm, infact most choose a rev limit of 7500rpm...


It seems reasonable but I would think that the crazy piston speeds are more the limitation than the strenght of the Crank.

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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Id buy the AMS Road Racing motor
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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supersal, I don't feel that what you just wrote is factual. I don't think the "majority" use an aftermarket crank. I also don't know what other shops suggest but on our stroker I suggest an 8500 rpm rev limit and have yet to see one fail from an RPM related death.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Check the date on the post, it's "old". I use two brands of rods now, Crower and Groden, nothing else, end of story no exceptions.
i know., i read the dates of the thread. i was just wondering the reasoning behind not using eagles.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
supersal, I don't feel that what you just wrote is factual. I don't think the "majority" use an aftermarket crank. I also don't know what other shops suggest but on our stroker I suggest an 8500 rpm rev limit and have yet to see one fail from an RPM related death.
David I am not saying it is factual - I'm just saying this is what I have gathered from the posts I've read. I have been looking into it because I have a 4G64 based strocker kit with Wiseco Strocker pistons and forged rods...

I know that you guys have been using the 4G64 Crank in the DSM community for ages now and that the mass marked Forged cranks have only recently been available so I am just speculating to the benefit of using the forged crank over the OEM 4G64 crank...


So thanks for the correction.


ps. from Crank perspective alone what rpm and HP limit would you put on a 4G64 Crank?

8500rpm - 750HP?

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