What Clutch?
What Clutch?
I know this has been asked before, but I have an evo with intake, exhaust, man., avc IV, Safc II, and fmic, and also am waiting for 272's, my clutch is totally shot. I am also doing a GT35R this winter. I need a clutch asap, and wanna know if the exedy twin disc is really worth it or if I could get away with something cheaper? I wanna flywheel also, what do you guys reccommend? The car is driven hard, but not all the time. Thanks in advance
RYAN
RYAN
Originally Posted by Lancerlover
W/e you do, dont get an ACT clutch...those things are known to not let you shift into gear at 7k on the Evos
Originally Posted by Lancerlover
W/e you do, dont get an ACT clutch...those things are known to not let you shift into gear at 7k on the Evos
Tom
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Originally Posted by Precision Dyno
Im sorry guys but ACT is NOT addressing the problem.
Go with an Exedy. You will not be disappointed.
Go with an Exedy. You will not be disappointed.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=126768
I dont' mind you recommending Exedy. Exedy has certain benefits to their design. They make great parts if you choose the right one for the right application. I could pick on Exedy about certain tradeoffs as well though. But every design has tradeoffs, including ours. My point is that you don't have to talk down ACT to promote Exedy.
How can you say that about ACT anyway?
Oh, yeah, the "problem". Let's review the so called "problem" since it was brought up:
We sell the same clutch design for almost 2 years with great sucess. ACT sales on EVO clutches far exceeds forcasts. Very few complaints or problems of any kind.
Occasional threads or posts on EVOM talk about issues shifting with ACT clutch. ACT president gets involved regularly. Most (or all) are found to be adjustment issues and were easily remedied. Recently however there are rumors emerging of an "ACT problem".
Sept 3:
- Very keyboard happy author starts thread complaining about his ACT locking him from shifting above 7000 rpm. Others join in for and against with debate and discussion.
- Author is convinced all ACT EVO clutches have a problem and there is no fix
With cooperation from ACT, RRE offers to test and fix anyone's vehicle with shifting problems. Two show up and are easily adjusted with no further issues.
10 days and 19 pages later, author of thread tries adjusts his clutch and car shifts fine.
- President of ACT gets actively involved on thread, addressing customers.
Author is still not convinced it is fixed.
- Rumor spreads about a so called "ACT problem" so ACT President authors 21 pages about clutches, design, testing, adjustment, etc to address shifting problems of all types and educate about clutches.
- Many chime in to the mega thread about having no issues at all with their ACT. Others chime in with lockout issues with all kinds of other clutches. Still others with the lockout symptoms.
- President of ACT exchanges several email and phone questions regarding adjustment, etc. personally addressing customers.
- Yesterday: Author of original mega thread goes to drag strip and runs great numbers. He starts new thread to tell of his new found faith in ACT.
- Disclaimer: Now there are always exceptions. There are many other things that can and do happen to cause shifting problems. But they are rare, and usually not problems with the clutch parts. Go back and read about it. I don't want to rehash old news. ACT is not just trying to take the high road.
So you say we are not addressing the so called "problem"? I don't remember any emails or calls from you. I think you are being a bit quick to judge. Believe it or not, as President and CTO, I have normal responsibilities that do not at all include this forum. I help people out on here regularly whether they have an ACT clutch or not. Not to sell clutches, but because I want to help.
Unfortunately, everyone likes a good rumor. I will gladly "address the problem" personally for you if you chance to email me at dstarksen@advancedclutch.com, instead of spreading gossip. Sorry for the book folks.
yea this ACT BS is really annoying me also. I was moving ACT clutches extremely quickly and now sales have dropped. And every call or order I get, i'm questioned about it. I run the ACT in my car and I've killed the disc already due to abuse (I drive hard and launch alot) so I'm upgrading to an Exedy Twin Carbon because I plan on running a GT35R with AEM next year and methanol and I dont think the ACT will hold the power I'm looking for. I also want my car to shift like butter at 8K and I think the twin carbon discs will help me achieve that goal.
ACT makes great clutches, I used them in the 3 2g dsms me and my Gf had without a problem once. I've sold hundreds of them for all kinds of cars over the past couple years. They make an awesome product.
ACT makes great clutches, I used them in the 3 2g dsms me and my Gf had without a problem once. I've sold hundreds of them for all kinds of cars over the past couple years. They make an awesome product.
and bump for Dirk (President of ACT) posting on this forum backing up their name AT 11:22PM ON A SATURDAY NIGHT!!!!!!
WELL 11:22 EST, I GUESS 8:22 PST, BUT STILL. VERY IMPRESSED, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DIRK, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL PASS ON EVENTUALLY.
WELL 11:22 EST, I GUESS 8:22 PST, BUT STILL. VERY IMPRESSED, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DIRK, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL PASS ON EVENTUALLY.
Go Tilton... New Organic/Cerametallic combo or Twin cerametallic should cover a GT35R well and 600whp easy. These combo's are from the best clutch mfr., yet affordable enough for the average person to own.
My buddy ran just an act disc and PP, hit 1.68 60 ft. and loved the clutch. no problems
Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
This is how people who've never even had personal experience with a company's parts tarnish their reputation. The Internet is great but that's the biggest pile of BS information ever. ACT is a great value in a single plate clutch.
Tom
Tom
damn
Originally Posted by ACTman
Better yet, check the recent poll:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=126768
I dont' mind you recommending Exedy. Exedy has certain benefits to their design. They make great parts if you choose the right one for the right application. I could pick on Exedy about certain tradeoffs as well though. But every design has tradeoffs, including ours. My point is that you don't have to talk down ACT to promote Exedy.
How can you say that about ACT anyway?
Oh, yeah, the "problem". Let's review the so called "problem" since it was brought up:
We sell the same clutch design for almost 2 years with great sucess. ACT sales on EVO clutches far exceeds forcasts. Very few complaints or problems of any kind.
Occasional threads or posts on EVOM talk about issues shifting with ACT clutch. ACT president gets involved regularly. Most (or all) are found to be adjustment issues and were easily remedied. Recently however there are rumors emerging of an "ACT problem".
Sept 3:
- Very keyboard happy author starts thread complaining about his ACT locking him from shifting above 7000 rpm. Others join in for and against with debate and discussion.
- Author is convinced all ACT EVO clutches have a problem and there is no fix
With cooperation from ACT, RRE offers to test and fix anyone's vehicle with shifting problems. Two show up and are easily adjusted with no further issues.
10 days and 19 pages later, author of thread tries adjusts his clutch and car shifts fine.
- President of ACT gets actively involved on thread, addressing customers.
Author is still not convinced it is fixed.
- Rumor spreads about a so called "ACT problem" so ACT President authors 21 pages about clutches, design, testing, adjustment, etc to address shifting problems of all types and educate about clutches.
- Many chime in to the mega thread about having no issues at all with their ACT. Others chime in with lockout issues with all kinds of other clutches. Still others with the lockout symptoms.
- President of ACT exchanges several email and phone questions regarding adjustment, etc. personally addressing customers.
- Yesterday: Author of original mega thread goes to drag strip and runs great numbers. He starts new thread to tell of his new found faith in ACT.
- Disclaimer: Now there are always exceptions. There are many other things that can and do happen to cause shifting problems. But they are rare, and usually not problems with the clutch parts. Go back and read about it. I don't want to rehash old news. ACT is not just trying to take the high road.
So you say we are not addressing the so called "problem"? I don't remember any emails or calls from you. I think you are being a bit quick to judge. Believe it or not, as President and CTO, I have normal responsibilities that do not at all include this forum. I help people out on here regularly whether they have an ACT clutch or not. Not to sell clutches, but because I want to help.
Unfortunately, everyone likes a good rumor. I will gladly "address the problem" personally for you if you chance to email me at dstarksen@advancedclutch.com, instead of spreading gossip. Sorry for the book folks.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=126768
I dont' mind you recommending Exedy. Exedy has certain benefits to their design. They make great parts if you choose the right one for the right application. I could pick on Exedy about certain tradeoffs as well though. But every design has tradeoffs, including ours. My point is that you don't have to talk down ACT to promote Exedy.
How can you say that about ACT anyway?
Oh, yeah, the "problem". Let's review the so called "problem" since it was brought up:
We sell the same clutch design for almost 2 years with great sucess. ACT sales on EVO clutches far exceeds forcasts. Very few complaints or problems of any kind.
Occasional threads or posts on EVOM talk about issues shifting with ACT clutch. ACT president gets involved regularly. Most (or all) are found to be adjustment issues and were easily remedied. Recently however there are rumors emerging of an "ACT problem".
Sept 3:
- Very keyboard happy author starts thread complaining about his ACT locking him from shifting above 7000 rpm. Others join in for and against with debate and discussion.
- Author is convinced all ACT EVO clutches have a problem and there is no fix
With cooperation from ACT, RRE offers to test and fix anyone's vehicle with shifting problems. Two show up and are easily adjusted with no further issues.
10 days and 19 pages later, author of thread tries adjusts his clutch and car shifts fine.
- President of ACT gets actively involved on thread, addressing customers.
Author is still not convinced it is fixed.
- Rumor spreads about a so called "ACT problem" so ACT President authors 21 pages about clutches, design, testing, adjustment, etc to address shifting problems of all types and educate about clutches.
- Many chime in to the mega thread about having no issues at all with their ACT. Others chime in with lockout issues with all kinds of other clutches. Still others with the lockout symptoms.
- President of ACT exchanges several email and phone questions regarding adjustment, etc. personally addressing customers.
- Yesterday: Author of original mega thread goes to drag strip and runs great numbers. He starts new thread to tell of his new found faith in ACT.
- Disclaimer: Now there are always exceptions. There are many other things that can and do happen to cause shifting problems. But they are rare, and usually not problems with the clutch parts. Go back and read about it. I don't want to rehash old news. ACT is not just trying to take the high road.
So you say we are not addressing the so called "problem"? I don't remember any emails or calls from you. I think you are being a bit quick to judge. Believe it or not, as President and CTO, I have normal responsibilities that do not at all include this forum. I help people out on here regularly whether they have an ACT clutch or not. Not to sell clutches, but because I want to help.
Unfortunately, everyone likes a good rumor. I will gladly "address the problem" personally for you if you chance to email me at dstarksen@advancedclutch.com, instead of spreading gossip. Sorry for the book folks.
Originally Posted by ActMan
- Yesterday: Author of original mega thread goes to drag strip and runs great numbers. He starts new thread to tell of his new found faith in ACT.
Regardless, this won't be the clutch for his new setup. He should probably go with one of the new Tiltons, or at least the Exedy Twin.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Let's not get carried away. I knew the adjustment would work, but I was not satisfied with that as a long-term fix, since it only appears to be a bandaid. Yes, several people have continued to have the same problems after adjusting the clutch. I don't have any "newfound faith" in the ACT, but I am very pleased that I can currently shift the same way I did during the first 2 months after installing the ACT. I didn't expect my lockout issues to begin at the 2-month mark, but they did. I hope the same problems don't resurface, but they may...
Regardless, this won't be the clutch for his new setup. He should probably go with one of the new Tiltons, or at least the Exedy Twin.
Regardless, this won't be the clutch for his new setup. He should probably go with one of the new Tiltons, or at least the Exedy Twin.
I have only heard from only one of the "several people that continue to have problems". I am just starting to correspond with him but so far he told me that after the shop adjusted the clutch, it engaged closer to the floor... Uh, adjusted the wrong way perhaps? I will know more later. The "several" you speak of is down from the "MANY" you spoke of before. Don't you realize how damaging a few small words are to my business?
For the record, I never made any recommendation to the author of this thread. If he wants to email me personally I will give my recommendations. I think is poor taste to try and sell him on ACT when he didn't ask anything about ACT.


