272's or 20g?
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
And some run 11s with stock turbo AND stock cams!! (just not me, dammit 
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Originally Posted by Creamo3
I have both,be it 264 on the intake side. You should really do the cams first to realize the stock turbos potential. I would do everything you can around the stock turbo and once you max out the stock turbo look to upgrading.
My advice is to Take his advice
Originally Posted by Nez136
comes down to very impressive tuning mixed with very impressive driving(not me either...Sh|T!)
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Unfortunately, when I hit the track Friday and am able to rev past 7600 in 4th in my pursuit of that final .02s, I will no longer be able to claim it on just my own personal tuning with the S-AFC. I'll have to admit that I'm using a flash (for the rev limit raise), even though it was just a base flash that I tune on top of with the S-AFC. Oh well, as long as I hit 11s, it's worth it.
Originally Posted by Nez136
I almost went with the S-afc/flash combo but i couldn't pass up the Utec! do you still use the ACT?
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Unfortunately, when I hit the track Friday and am able to rev past 7600 in 4th in my pursuit of that final .02s, I will no longer be able to claim it on just my own personal tuning with the S-AFC. I'll have to admit that I'm using a flash (for the rev limit raise), even though it was just a base flash that I tune on top of with the S-AFC. Oh well, as long as I hit 11s, it's worth it.
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If you don't want to break the bank and still want good gains get some cams and a tune. Simple as that. a 20g will be at least $800 without a tune and wont make as much power (without a tune) as cams and a tune will. Secondly, cams are much easier to install than a damn turbo.
"Screw Warrtalon. Get the turbo, more efficent for ny specific boost level resulting in lower IATs and a better ability to hold boost. Cams are great and all but it does not change anything about the stupid spikey hot air blowing 16G."
And the 16g is such a stupid air blower people that have it are only making 400+...
"Screw Warrtalon. Get the turbo, more efficent for ny specific boost level resulting in lower IATs and a better ability to hold boost. Cams are great and all but it does not change anything about the stupid spikey hot air blowing 16G."
And the 16g is such a stupid air blower people that have it are only making 400+...
Turbo is definitely easier to install... You don't have to mess with timing, timing belt, tensioner, special tools, torqueing the valve cover, and about 20 other things you have to do absolutely correct or ruin your motor....
It depends on what you want really. I plan to do just bolt ons first and keep the engine stock. So in this case I would do the turbo first. Cams are easy power but I am reluctant to do anything internal to the engine. If you remember back in the DSM days with Buschur's staged upgrades, a turbo upgrade came before cams. In fact I don't recall seeing cams in there until towards the end when you do engine work.