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View Poll Results: What motor is my best choise?
Buschur Racing 4G64 2.3L
32.94%
SlowBoyRacing 4G64 2.3L
4.71%
SlowBoyRacing 4G63 2.4L
8.24%
RnR Racing 4G64 2.4L
7.06%
AMS 4G63 2.3L
32.94%
Other, please post who.
14.12%
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Build a new motor, 4G63 or 4G64? 2.1, 2.3 or 2.4l?

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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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From the Toda website:

TODA RACE ENGINES ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR SALE. THEY ARE ONLY AVAILABLE IN JAPAN ON LEASE TERMS TO PROFESSIONAL TEAMS COMPETING IN FIA SANCTIONED RACING SERIES.

THESE ENGINES WILL NOT FIT YOUR STREET CAR.
Yes, this statement from Toda is correct. However, I assure you, if one has the means they can acquire one from Toda. That is all I can legally say.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Yes, this statement from Toda is correct. However, I assure you, if one has the means they can acquire one from Toda. That is all I can legally say.
Do they make an engine for the Evo?
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Reine
Hey,

That coating you are talking about sounds intresting.
Is there any other thing I shall look for?

SlowBoyRacing knifeedges there cranks, does any one else do that? They also have this Girdle as a option, that seames like a good thing.

Please advice me futher.
Not much in particular, just make sure they aren't sending it to "the local guy". I've seen a lot of botched ceramic exhaust coatings by small operations, I'd hate to see their pistons. I went with swaintech after reading the engine masters build off issue and finding out each top three team had used swaintech coatings on their parts, that's saying something.

The 7 bolt 4G63 is girdled from the factory, I think they are most likely reffering to an offering for the DSM 6 bolt motors.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NDgsx
Not much in particular, just make sure they aren't sending it to "the local guy". I've seen a lot of botched ceramic exhaust coatings by small operations, I'd hate to see their pistons. I went with swaintech after reading the engine masters build off issue and finding out each top three team had used swaintech coatings on their parts, that's saying something.

The 7 bolt 4G63 is girdled from the factory, I think they are most likely reffering to an offering for the DSM 6 bolt motors.
They have a billet girdle option for the 7 bolt 4g63. I wonder if it's worthwhile.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 3240
They have a billet girdle option for the 7 bolt 4g63. I wonder if it's worthwhile.
It cost aprox $1000 so it would be nice to know more about it...
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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i seen a slowboy car at a local shop and i personally thought their work was kinda ghetto..
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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it had all sorts of oil leaks and **** and the motor was not even that old like 3000 miles or so... i was like
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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Ok they're advertising the pro-gram girdle, not a piece they make in house. I've heard of the pro-gram unit, but never used it.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO8 WHOA
it had all sorts of oil leaks and **** and the motor was not even that old like 3000 miles or so... i was like
That's what happens when you use ineferior aftermarket gasket sets (note I'm not saying ALL aftermarket sets are crap, there is one good brand I've seen).
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 05:20 AM
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So what I have understod of this thread this far is, go with either Buschur or Magnus?

Questions that still needs a answer:
- Pro-gram gridle. Something to get? Worth $1000? Where to get?
- Edgeknifing the crank or not?
- Coting the internals or not?
- 4G63 or 4G64?
- 2.1, 2.3 or 2.4, whats is the best setup for street and what is ste strongest?

Keep it comming guy's
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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i don't know if anyone has read the latest scc cuz there haven't been any threads, i even searched, but tom passacquala's evo almost won, it lead the whole thing until it blew up.

anyway the way that relates here is... a few things, whatever engine you get, make sure you do the right things. first, rev limit set to a good place. second if that rev limit is over 9000 then get underdriving pullies for your stuff like oil and water pump so they don't fly apart and break everything else.

also... keep in mind that the engine in rnr's own race car was built by roadrace service.

haha what's funny is the local guy for me is roadrace service....

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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Reine
What would you choose and why?

I have a Full Race Stage 3GT turbokit (GT35R) and AEM. I need a new motor, not just a stroker kit..

So, what to go with and why? 4G63 block and 2.3L or perhaps a 4G64 with a 2.1 de-strok or a 2.4L?

Please advice me.. I don't whant Eagel crap in my motor... Just good internals..
The larger the displacement, the quicker the spool...go with a 2.4...but go with a reliable company. I dont know which 2.4 is reliable.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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the thing is there's only two places offering hte 2.4 4g64 rrs and rnr and i think rnr sources it to rrs.

didn't know buschur started building 4g64s tho...
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Just buy it direct from rrs
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Can you give us a ball park for your 2.4 from RRS?
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